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[Tiesenberg]

Ignore this post...

Sorry, my mistake, nothing to be fixed in game.

[megamanmatt]

Not even a little bit important but Joe Mauer's "hometown" is listed as unknown. It should be Saint Paul. I think this is due to how the name of the city is referenced IRL vs. it's spelling in the database. Most of the time it's spelled St. Paul, where as in OOTP it's Saint Paul. So when the players were all put into OOTP his hometown was likely listed as St. Paul which isn't recognizable to the game because the name is fully spelled out. Long post for something so trivial I know but... well i'm bored.

EDIT: As a matter of fact the only city with Saint in it's name that is recognized by the abbreviation of St is St Louis. In future versions this should really be changed, at least for US cities as St is usually the recognizable and commonly used spelling. Example: St. Paul, St. Louis, St. Petersburg, St. Cloud, St. Michael

[Cryomaniac]

Originally Posted by megamanmatt

Not even a little bit important but Joe Mauer's "hometown" is listed as unknown. It should be Saint Paul. I think this is due to how the name of the city is referenced IRL vs. it's spelling in the database. Most of the time it's spelled St. Paul, where as in OOTP it's Saint Paul. So when the players were all put into OOTP his hometown was likely listed as St. Paul which isn't recognizable to the game because the name is fully spelled out. Long post for something so trivial I know but... well i'm bored.

EDIT: As a matter of fact the only city with Saint in it's name that is recognized by the abbreviation of St is St Louis. In future versions this should really be changed, at least for US cities as St is usually the recognizable and commonly used spelling. Example: St. Paul, St. Louis, St. Petersburg, St. Cloud, St. Michael

Saint Helens in England is spelled St. Helens in the database. Useless info, but relevant.

[Rebington]

Oakland Athletics Contracts again -

Jack Cust, in ootpx he's making nearly $100m over the next 6 years! In reality he's on a one year $2.8m contract

Mark Ellis, Eric Chavez and Jason Giambi all have club option in 2010 (none of which show in ootpx)

[megamanmatt]

Originally Posted by Cryomaniac

Saint Helens in England is spelled St. Helens in the database. Useless info, but relevant.

Oops, my bad. I was only looking at cities within the USA when I checked. However I've done a look through and Saint Helens in England is Saint Helens in the database. There are actually only three cities in the entire cities file that are spelled St. St. Louis is one of them and the other two is St. Anthony and St. Johns both in Newfoundland. Either way this is a really small thing and only really would affect the importing of players for historical play. Wrong place for this discussion anyway.

[damonrusst]

Just noticed both Terry Francona and Lou Piniella are rated at 1 or 0 in teach pitching as well. And they are both fired at the end of 2009 as a result. This is getting ridiculous. As I said before, it's absurd that managers this experience would have so little to offer in teh way of pitching advice. I really hope the manager ratings are addressed in the upcoming patch.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by damonrusst

Just noticed both Terry Francona and Lou Piniella are rated at 1 or 0 in teach pitching as well. And they are both fired at the end of 2009 as a result. This is getting ridiculous. As I said before, it's absurd that managers this experience would have so little to offer in teh way of pitching advice. I really hope the manager ratings are addressed in the upcoming patch.

Were they fired because their team did poorly or because they were rated a 1 or 0 in pitching? You'd be hard pressed to prove Pinella knows anything about pitching. Athough I do agree for gaming purposes it should be changed.

[Cryomaniac]

Originally Posted by megamanmatt

Oops, my bad. I was only looking at cities within the USA when I checked. However I've done a look through and Saint Helens in England is Saint Helens in the database. There are actually only three cities in the entire cities file that are spelled St. St. Louis is one of them and the other two is St. Anthony and St. Johns both in Newfoundland. Either way this is a really small thing and only really would affect the importing of players for historical play. Wrong place for this discussion anyway.

I wonder why those 3 cities are spelled that way but the others aren't? I'm sure St. Helens was spelled that way before lol.

[sfeldkamp]

I'm experiencing, and have heard from others, that no hidden international players are being discovered in the MLB Quickstart. I'm not sure if that's an issue with the roster set or the game. I searched the pages of this post and didn't see where anyone had reported that here.

[CubbyFan23]

Originally Posted by damonrusst

Just noticed both Terry Francona and Lou Piniella are rated at 1 or 0 in teach pitching as well. And they are both fired at the end of 2009 as a result. This is getting ridiculous. As I said before, it's absurd that managers this experience would have so little to offer in teh way of pitching advice. I really hope the manager ratings are addressed in the upcoming patch.

It won't be.

Manager pitching ratings have nothing to do with them being fired. In fact, I believe they have nothing to do with anything when it comes to managers. You are overreacting to pretty petty things here.

[Jay Elias]

In the updated roster set after the first patch, many of the player salaries remain incorrect.

A list of a couple I've found so far:

Atlanta:

Chipper Jones is making 10m in 2009 in the game, with a salary of 19.9m in 2010 and 2011. According to Cot's Baseball Contracts, Jones makes 11m in 2009, 14m each year from 2010 to 2012 (base salary of 13m plus 1m in signing bonus paid each season) with a 7m club option for 2013.

Baltimore:

Adam Eaton is listed as making 8.5m in 2009 and 9m in 2010. These numbers are incorrect; Philadelphia paid off his contract and he played for Baltimore on a one-year contract for the league minimum.

Brian Roberts' extension pays him 10m a season for 2010-2013. The game has his contract expiring in 2011.

Aubrey Huff's contract expires after the 2009 season. The game has him under contract for 2010 at a whopping 16.4m.

Oakland:

Jack Cust, for some reason, has an extension of 18.5m a season from 2010 to 2014.


I'll try to make a complete list, but I have to note that many of these incorrect salaries were pointed out previously.

EDITED TO ADD: It appears that none of the salaries which were posted as incorrect earlier in this thread have been changed. I'm not criticizing; y'all had a ton to do, but I just thought you'd want to know.

[Slackker]

Indeed. Sheffield is still listed as making $14,000,000 for the Mets. Instead of $400k. Huge difference.

If they aren't addressed this patch that's fine. I'm fixing the bigger disparities myself. I guess I just assumed it fell under one of the MLB roster accuracy patch note.

[injury log]

Originally Posted by Jay Elias

EDITED TO ADD: It appears that none of the salaries which were posted as incorrect earlier in this thread have been changed. I'm not criticizing; y'all had a ton to do, but I just thought you'd want to know.

I was worried that might happen. Without going into boring detail about the roster editing process, all the contract changes need to be made last, in the final version of the game file, so if some kind of real life issue crops up for a couple of volunteers just before release, these changes might not get made, and I think that's what happened. Luckily we can get a corrected roster set out when we have time to make the changes - the roster file doesn't need to be included as part of a patch - so I'd guess that sometime soon there will be a new file with better contract data included.

[injury log]

And just to add - because of this, there's no need to again post any contract info that's been posted earlier in this thread.

[damonrusst]

Originally Posted by CubbyFan23

It won't be.

Manager pitching ratings have nothing to do with them being fired. In fact, I believe they have nothing to do with anything when it comes to managers. You are overreacting to pretty petty things here.

But if manager ratings affect how your pitchers develop and perform, how can they have nothing to do wtih anything? And it does affect them getting fired if their team's pitching goes in the tank because of these new ratings. And also, if the fictional managers all seem to get better ratings across the board, after a few seasons all the RL managers will be unemployed and we'll have fake managers running all the teams. Seems to sap some fo the realism from the game.

[johndoe8865]

Originally Posted by Jay Elias

In the updated roster set after the first patch, many of the player salaries remain incorrect.

A list of a couple I've found so far:

Atlanta:

Chipper Jones is making 10m in 2009 in the game, with a salary of 19.9m in 2010 and 2011. According to Cot's Baseball Contracts, Jones makes 11m in 2009, 14m each year from 2010 to 2012 (base salary of 13m plus 1m in signing bonus paid each season) with a 7m club option for 2013.

Baltimore:

Adam Eaton is listed as making 8.5m in 2009 and 9m in 2010. These numbers are incorrect; Philadelphia paid off his contract and he played for Baltimore on a one-year contract for the league minimum.

Brian Roberts' extension pays him 10m a season for 2010-2013. The game has his contract expiring in 2011.

Aubrey Huff's contract expires after the 2009 season. The game has him under contract for 2010 at a whopping 16.4m.

Oakland:

Jack Cust, for some reason, has an extension of 18.5m a season from 2010 to 2014.


I'll try to make a complete list, but I have to note that many of these incorrect salaries were pointed out previously.

EDITED TO ADD: It appears that none of the salaries which were posted as incorrect earlier in this thread have been changed. I'm not criticizing; y'all had a ton to do, but I just thought you'd want to know.

Please post a full list of salaries that were not corrected here and so I can fix them in my game before starting a new MLB season. I think I'll also give each existing MLB manager a pitching stat of atleast 30 so they aren't fired. Thoughts?

[johndoe8865]

Originally Posted by damonrusst

But if manager ratings affect how your pitchers develop and perform, how can they have nothing to do wtih anything? And it does affect them getting fired if their team's pitching goes in the tank because of these new ratings. And also, if the fictional managers all seem to get better ratings across the board, after a few seasons all the RL managers will be unemployed and we'll have fake managers running all the teams. Seems to sap some of the realism from the game.

I seem to remember this happening in OOTP9, but I never thought about this as the reason ...

[POKeefe]

One thing I noticed is Randor Bierd on the Red Sox is listed as "Very Popular" when in real life he's a little known AAA reliever. Also, Ramon Ramirez is listed as in AAA when he's been a top set-up man for them all season. Also, I don't understand how Saito is rated so much higher than Ramirez considering they were very similar last season.

Red Sox MILB:
Ryan Kalish is only 21 and in AA. He is rated 8th in a very deep system and has drawn future MLB comparisons to Nick Markakis. A 1 1/2 potential is a bit low.
Casey Kelly is ranked 4th in the system now and will likely be a top 50 prospect in the next BA Top 100. I don't understand how Derrik Gibson can be a 3-4 star potential and Kelly is a 2.


Other notes: Indians and Yankees with the #2 and 3 bullpens respectively is a bit of a joke. Even before the season, both teams were believed to have weak bullpens going in.

[Cryomaniac]

Originally Posted by POKeefe

One thing I noticed is Randor Bierd on the Red Sox is listed as "Very Popular" when in real life he's a little known AAA reliever.

On that point, Pat Venditte is not "unknown".

[Jay Elias]

Originally Posted by Cryomaniac

On that point, Pat Venditte is not "unknown".

Um, yes he most certainly is.

If 5% of people at the next Yankee home game have heard of him, I'll eat my hat. On webcam for your entertainment.