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Old 06-03-2009, 01:12 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Post Please post MLB Roster set issues here

Please post any MLB roster set issues here. You can post complaints about certain player ratings, but I'd prefer to stick to the non-subjective things like incorrect demographics!

Important note: as soon as you start simming in a MLB game, the AI is going to make decisions based on what it thinks is best. So, as soon as you've gone even one day into the game, players may no longer be exactly where they were in the "real world" on Opening Day! You may also not agree with the AI's decisions!


If you feel a player's rating is way off, please post data to support your claim and what should be done to fix it.

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Player A’s BABIP is way too high. Projected .278 in game, ZiPS projects .257. Should be around 110
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Pitcher A is projected to give up 22 HR in 240 innings, he’s given up 24-28-32 in his last three full seasons, all in fewer than 220 innings. His movement should be lowered, significantly.

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Why is Player A rated at 5-stars? He sucks! Make him worse.

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Old 06-03-2009, 01:13 PM   #2 (permalink)
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Does Jon Lester being in Triple AAA count as an roster set issue?
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Old 06-03-2009, 01:15 PM   #3 (permalink)
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Just found a little boo boo...Oakland A's have Cust and Duchscherer signed to really ugly contracts that are bogus. Both are FAs after this season so if you are looking for things to be a little more realistic going forward you can use Commish Mode to edit those contracts.
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Old 06-03-2009, 01:45 PM   #4 (permalink)
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Here are some fixes (all as of opening day)

Giants:
Keiichi Yabu: on 50-game suspension
Kevin Pichardo: on 50-game suspension

Rangers:
Willie Eyre: on 15-day DL (ten days left), groin strain, out for 10 days

Braves:
David Ross: on 15-day DL (11 days remaining), strained groin, out for 11 days
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Please post any MLB roster set issues here. You can post complaints about certain player ratings, but I'd prefer to stick to the non-subjective things like incorrect demographics, etc.!
Yes, but if you feel a rating is way off. Please post data to support your claim and what should be done to fix it.

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Player A’s BABIP is way too high. Projected .278 in game, ZiPS projects .257. Should be around 110
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Pitcher A is projected to give up 22 HR in 240 innings, he’s given up 24-28-32 in his last three full seasons, all in fewer than 220 innings. His movement should be lowered, significantly.

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Why is Player A rated at 5-stars? He sucks! Make him worse.
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Yes, but if you feel a rating is way off. Please post data to support your claim and what should be done to fix it.

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Player A’s BABIP is way too high. Projected .278 in game, ZiPS projects .257. Should be around 110
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Pitcher A is projected to give up 22 HR in 240 innings, he’s given up 24-28-32 in his last three full seasons, all in fewer than 220 innings. His movement should be lowered, significantly.

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Why is Player A rated at 5-stars? He sucks! Make him worse.
Good idea, added this to the OP!
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Old 06-03-2009, 02:28 PM   #7 (permalink)
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Cardinals minor league prospect Roberto De la Cruz 3b Johnson City, has a duplicate of himself on the same roster
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Old 06-03-2009, 02:59 PM   #8 (permalink)
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Chipper Jones contract is wrong.

You have him making over 19M each in 2010 and 2011 when he is actually set to make 13M in 2010,2011, and 2012 each with a 7M club option for 2013.

http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/200...braves_15.html
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Something else that fell thru the cracks:

The league totals and LTMs for the Major league have been appropriately modified (the league totals using 2008 real life league stats, and though I don't know exactly how the LTMs were derived, they look reasonable), however, these modifications were not carried over to the minor leagues. The minors should all have the same league totals and LTMs as the major league. Otherwise minor league stats will be screwed up (or should I say more screwed up that usual? )
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Old 06-03-2009, 03:41 PM   #10 (permalink)
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Barry Zito's contract is wrong - it says our 5th starter is due to make 112 million over the next 6 years - oh damn, that is right.
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Small bit, but Michael Inoa in the A's farm system has his name spelt Ynoa now. I have scouting off, and I think some of the potential ratings get incredibly skewed when I put it on 1-10 scale for everything. Luke French and Brett Sinkbeil have the most potential in all of baseball
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Old 06-03-2009, 04:27 PM   #12 (permalink)
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Do player rating issues go here?

Erik Bedard is labeled by the game a borderline starter. Not sure why, since he's put up good numbers as both an Oriole and a Mariner.
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Something else that fell thru the cracks:

The league totals and LTMs for the Major league have been appropriately modified (the league totals using 2008 real life league stats, and though I don't know exactly how the LTMs were derived, they look reasonable), however, these modifications were not carried over to the minor leagues. The minors should all have the same league totals and LTMs as the major league. Otherwise minor league stats will be screwed up (or should I say more screwed up that usual? )
Wait...That's not right at all. Why would you say the minor league LT/LTM's should replicate MLB? That has not been my experience. You need to enter correct LT's for the specific league (PCL, GCL, etc.)- to establish the correct ratios for that league- and then you will need to adjust the LTM's to tweak the output. The numbers will never come out correctly if done as you describe.....Maybe I am mis-understanding you?
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Old 06-03-2009, 04:37 PM   #14 (permalink)
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Also, Chad Cordero shouldn't be back before the ASG at the earliest, since he's recovering from a torn labrum. He should be on the minor league DL on a minor league contract.
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I see a lot of quirky ratings here including Kason Gabbard being a 4 star potential pitcher, Dan Giese being a 5 star reliever, turning Jayson Werth and Elijah Dukes into superstars after decent seasons last year, Kris Benson being an almost 5 star reliever, and the most obvious is the Joe Saunders debacle. That's just a few as there seem to be many quirky ratings throughout MLB. This is with scouting off. Anyone who helped develop the game have any idea about these?
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I see a lot of quirky ratings here including Kason Gabbard being a 4 star potential pitcher, Dan Giese being a 5 star reliever, turning Jayson Werth and Elijah Dukes into superstars after decent seasons last year, Kris Benson being an almost 5 star reliever, and the most obvious is the Joe Saunders debacle. That's just a few as there seem to be many quirky ratings throughout MLB. This is with scouting off. Anyone who helped develop the game have any idea about these?
Please follow the instructions in the original post for posting constructive criticism of ratings!

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Yovani Gallardo, Brewers

Not a big complaint since I'm not sure how much effort was put into ratings for batting ratings for pitchers, but Gallardo is a much better hitter. I don't know where to find hitting projections for pitchers, so I'll just show his career numbers over 3 years:

71 AB, 15 hits, 4 2B, 4 HR, 0.211 avg, 0.222 obp, 0.437 slg, 0.659 ops

in game shows:
0.076 avg, 0.110 obp, 0.093 slg, 0.203 obp
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Yovani Gallardo, Brewers

Not a big complaint since I'm not sure how much effort was put into ratings for batting ratings for pitchers, but Gallardo is a much better hitter. I don't know where to find hitting projections for pitchers, so I'll just show his career numbers over 3 years:

71 AB, 15 hits, 4 2B, 4 HR, 0.211 avg, 0.222 obp, 0.437 slg, 0.659 ops

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0.076 avg, 0.110 obp, 0.093 slg, 0.203 obp
Nice catch, this should definitely be looked at.
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Please follow the instructions in the original post for posting constructive criticism of ratings!

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The problem is that with most of these guys, most of their ratings are correct, but due to the new pitching system, Saunders for example is listed as a 4 star current/ 2 star potential reliever when he was 17-7 with a 3-4 ERA as a starter last season. It's more of a question as to why the pitching system is causing these large distortion of the ratings.
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Do player rating issues go here?

Erik Bedard is labeled by the game a borderline starter. Not sure why, since he's put up good numbers as both an Oriole and a Mariner.
The conversion from the DB to the game set his change-up too low.

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