Reactions to the release + the next steps...

Markus Heinsohn · 06-04-2009, 03:41 AM

OK guys. This is officially the most flawless OOTP release ever. Usually after a release, the first night results in about 150 issues in my bug database. This time, it is just 30, and nothing really major.

So, I would like to thank our beta team, they did a marvelous job! Thanks guys

So, the plan is for tomorrow (Friday) to release the game to the public. And on Monday I will start coding the first patch while also cleaning up the 2009 roster set. It seems this will not take long, and after the first patch release I am going to disappear for a while, I think I need an extended vacation

Enjoy the game!
Markus

clwalcott · 06-04-2009, 03:45 AM

Thank you very much, so far so good! Can I ask a question? With the pitcharound thing, is there some kind of strategy beyond the obvious here, or a specific place in the manual I can find advice? Even with exceptional pitchers, in OOTP9, my K:BB ratios are always terrible. Is there something in regards to pitching around vs pitching too that might be relevant?

Markus Heinsohn · 06-04-2009, 03:49 AM

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Originally Posted by clwalcott

Thank you very much, so far so good! Can I ask a question? With the pitcharound thing, is there some kind of strategy beyond the obvious here, or a specific place in the manual I can find advice? Even with exceptional pitchers, in OOTP9, my K:BB ratios are always terrible. Is there something in regards to pitching around vs pitching too that might be relevant?

Well, when pitching around a guy you reduce the risk of giving up a hit or HR, but greatly increase the risk of walking the guy, hence the worse K:BB

clwalcott · 06-04-2009, 03:51 AM

Oh yeah dude, I got that and sorry, I know this thread is primarily for your congrats and I join you! I was just thinking of like, 0-2 counts, making hitters chase a pitch or two or something like that.

jbergey22 · 06-04-2009, 03:52 AM

Since Markus is all ears tonight

Would you have time time to describe what hold runner means?

When I think of hold runner I think of 1st baseman holding the runner on first base. Which means any runner with average or better speed should be held. However it has been mentioned that this isnt how its intended in the game, is this correct?

And congrats on a fabulous release!

Tycobbler · 06-04-2009, 03:59 AM

Great job Markus! Thank you for another excellent game!

ashantewarrier · 06-04-2009, 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

OK guys. This is officially the most flawless OOTP release ever. Usually after a release, the first night results in about 150 issues in my bug database. This time, it is just 30, and nothing really major.

So, I would like to thank our beta team, they did a marvelous job! Thanks guys

So, the plan is for tomorrow to release the game to the public. And on Monday I will start coding the first patch while also cleaning up the 2009 roster set. It seems this will not take long, and after the first patch release I am going to disappear for a while, I think I need an extended vacation

Enjoy the game!
Markus

Thank you Markus for your efforts and please, take care of yourself and health!

Simmo13 · 06-04-2009, 05:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jbergey22

Since Markus is all ears tonight

Would you have time time to describe what hold runner means?

When I think of hold runner I think of 1st baseman holding the runner on first base. Which means any runner with average or better speed should be held. However it has been mentioned that this isnt how its intended in the game, is this correct?

And congrats on a fabulous release!

I'd be interested in the official word on this too...I've always been under the impression that "hold runner" is the equivalent of the pitcher using a slide-step, making it harder for the runner to steal but losing something off the fastball as a consequence. Oh, and I add my congrats to Markus

Erik W. · 06-04-2009, 06:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Simmo13

I've always been under the impression that "hold runner" is the equivalent of the pitcher using a slide-step, making it harder for the runner to steal but losing something off the fastball as a consequence.

You have it mostly right, but it lowers the effectiveness of all pitches, not just the fastball.

clwalcott · 06-04-2009, 06:02 AM

So if a hitter is down 0-2, I obviously don't wanna throw anything over the plate, so pitching around should increase my chances of a batter chasing and thus, a K? Is this right? How sensitive to the count is the game?

Muzamba · 06-04-2009, 06:35 AM

Markus, if you're still around, could you please address my skin question?

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Originally Posted by Muzamba

Are the skins still customizable?

There used to be folders labelled "colours", "constants", "images", and "style_sets", where you could change settings and alter the appearance of the game. Now there's just the defaults.cfg and skin.bin files.

I'm a little concerned here. Due to my visual disability, I rely on the ability to edit the colors to be able to see the game. If I can no longer do this, I may have to ask for a refund.

struggles_mightily · 06-04-2009, 06:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

This time, it is just 30, and nothing really major.

Yeh, but only because "sucking" doesn't count as a bug!!!!!

(Nah, just kidding, it's an awesome, awesome release. Enjoy the vacation; you've earned it.)

Broth32 · 06-04-2009, 07:41 AM

Thanks Markus and team for yet another great release to the best text sports game on the market! Congrats and enjoy your time off...

BTW - do you ever just sit down and enjoy your game or is it all work??

dashby · 06-04-2009, 09:27 AM

kudos Markus. I know a lot of us like to point out all the negatives in your creation but, to be fair, it is a wonderful thing. The sports sim world would be a lesser place w/o it.

Malleus Dei · 06-04-2009, 09:39 AM

Enjoy your well-deserved vacation, Markus.

Markus Heinsohn · 06-04-2009, 09:57 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muzamba

Markus, if you're still around, could you please address my skin question?

The files are all there, just not on your computer yet

Please open the ad-ons dialog in the game menu. Click on "Reload". You should then get a list of add-ons. Four of them are the skin file sets. You can download whichever you need, then click on install and the files are at their correct place.
At least that's the plan!

Then you can make your changes and click on "Rebuild skin" in the game menu.

satchel · 06-04-2009, 10:32 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by clwalcott

So if a hitter is down 0-2, I obviously don't wanna throw anything over the plate, so pitching around should increase my chances of a batter chasing and thus, a K? Is this right? How sensitive to the count is the game?

When the count is 0-2, pitching around is not going to increase your chances of a K, it's probably going to decrease it. When you pitch around, you don't give the batter anything good to hit, therefore the pitches are off the plate, so you're never going to get a called strike. Pitching around is not intended to strike someone out, it's intended to make the batter swing at a pitch that he can't make good contact on.

endgame · 06-04-2009, 10:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Muzamba

Are the skins still customizable?

There used to be folders labelled "colours", "constants", "images", and "style_sets", where you could change settings and alter the appearance of the game. Now there's just the defaults.cfg and skin.bin files.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

The files are all there, just not on your computer yet

Please open the ad-ons dialog in the game menu. Click on "Reload". You should then get a list of add-ons. Four of them are the skin file sets. You can download whichever you need, then click on install and the files are at their correct place.
At least that's the plan!

Then you can make your changes and click on "Rebuild skin" in the game menu.

Everything works as designed downloading the files. It's easy to overlook the Install option. Just remember that the red box (using Black skin) just changes to Install after the download.

Also, I know you're working on other areas, Muzamba, but be aware that Andreas and I have exchanged some conversation on the Rebuild option.

1) I don't think that was included in the final game version's game menu. In order to use the rebuild option, you'll have to change the skin.bin file to oldskin.bin, etc. like we've done in previous versions.

2) At least in the black skin, there is a known issue - and it may be specific user system related - that after a rebuild, a couple of pulldown, dropdown, areas inherit transparent background rather than the original white. It's not a dealbreaker, as you can still read the options, just not as easily.

In any event, let us know of your successes or problems so we can add a comment to the existing BZ should you encounter any difficulties.

silvam14 · 06-04-2009, 10:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Muzamba

Markus, if you're still around, could you please address my skin question?

What? Markus is a dermatologist also?

Malleus Dei · 06-04-2009, 10:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by silvam14

What? Markus is a dermatologist also?

He wishes, given what dermatologists make.

06-04-2009, 03:41 AM	#1 (permalink)
Markus Heinsohn Developer OOTP Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Germany Posts: 14,003 Thanks: 606 Thanked 7,113x in 1,336 posts	Reactions to the release + the next steps... OK guys. This is officially the most flawless OOTP release ever. Usually after a release, the first night results in about 150 issues in my bug database. This time, it is just 30, and nothing really major. So, I would like to thank our beta team, they did a marvelous job! Thanks guys So, the plan is for tomorrow (Friday) to release the game to the public. And on Monday I will start coding the first patch while also cleaning up the 2009 roster set. It seems this will not take long, and after the first patch release I am going to disappear for a while, I think I need an extended vacation Enjoy the game! Markus Last edited by Markus Heinsohn; 06-05-2009 at 03:03 AM.

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jbergey22 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,078 Thanks: 151 Thanked 137x in 105 posts	Since Markus is all ears tonight Would you have time time to describe what hold runner means? When I think of hold runner I think of 1st baseman holding the runner on first base. Which means any runner with average or better speed should be held. However it has been mentioned that this isnt how its intended in the game, is this correct? And congrats on a fabulous release! Last edited by jbergey22; 06-04-2009 at 03:54 AM.

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06-04-2009, 03:45 AM	#2 (permalink)
clwalcott Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 127 Thanks: 9 Thanked 8x in 8 posts	Thank you very much, so far so good! Can I ask a question? With the pitcharound thing, is there some kind of strategy beyond the obvious here, or a specific place in the manual I can find advice? Even with exceptional pitchers, in OOTP9, my K:BB ratios are always terrible. Is there something in regards to pitching around vs pitching too that might be relevant?

06-04-2009, 03:51 AM	#4 (permalink)
clwalcott Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 127 Thanks: 9 Thanked 8x in 8 posts	Oh yeah dude, I got that and sorry, I know this thread is primarily for your congrats and I join you! I was just thinking of like, 0-2 counts, making hitters chase a pitch or two or something like that.

06-04-2009, 03:59 AM	#6 (permalink)
Tycobbler All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: 20 minutes from Comerica Park Posts: 1,723 Thanks: 105 Thanked 39x in 27 posts	Great job Markus! Thank you for another excellent game!

06-04-2009, 06:02 AM	#10 (permalink)
clwalcott Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2009 Posts: 127 Thanks: 9 Thanked 8x in 8 posts	So if a hitter is down 0-2, I obviously don't wanna throw anything over the plate, so pitching around should increase my chances of a batter chasing and thus, a K? Is this right? How sensitive to the count is the game?

06-04-2009, 07:41 AM	#13 (permalink)
Broth32 Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: C-Town Posts: 384 Thanks: 5 Thanked 11x in 9 posts	Thanks Markus and team for yet another great release to the best text sports game on the market! Congrats and enjoy your time off... BTW - do you ever just sit down and enjoy your game or is it all work??

06-04-2009, 09:27 AM	#14 (permalink)
dashby Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 153 Thanks: 1 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	kudos Markus. I know a lot of us like to point out all the negatives in your creation but, to be fair, it is a wonderful thing. The sports sim world would be a lesser place w/o it.