It's caught...nope it's dropped.

senorcoo · 06-08-2009, 08:10 AM

I play out my games and I've noticed an inordinate amount of fly balls caught by an OF, then the OF crashes into the wall, then the ball pops out for a hit. Anyone else finding that this happens WAY TOO MUCH?

Broth32 · 06-08-2009, 08:15 AM

Agreed - I see it at least once a game - but more like 2-3 times a game. Too much IMO.

Dave1408 · 06-08-2009, 08:15 AM

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Originally Posted by senorcoo

I play out my games and I've noticed an inordinate amount of fly balls caught by an OF, then the OF crashes into the wall, then the ball pops out for a hit. Anyone else finding that this happens WAY TOO MUCH?

I've played out about 20 games in my season so far and have only noticed this happen probably about 4-5 times. This is much more than last season when you would never see it happen! So i'm impressed/happy. Are you sure you're not just using a small sample size?

Tycobbler · 06-08-2009, 08:19 AM

I like the way the pbp displays it with the "pause" then end result. Adds a little suspense

Well done guys!

pstrickert · 06-08-2009, 08:20 AM

The frequency of dropped fly balls will be decreased in the next patch.

senorcoo · 06-08-2009, 08:21 AM

I've played about 15 games and it seems like it's happening every other game. I understand that its not a large sample size, but I watch a pretty good amount of real baseball and I can't tell you the last time I saw it happen.

senorcoo · 06-08-2009, 08:23 AM

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Originally Posted by pstrickert

The frequency of dropped fly balls will be decreased in the next patch.

Glad to hear it. I do like the suspense aspect like a previous poster noted. If Markus and company can apply this to a few other plays, it wouldn't be a bad thing.

Killing Time · 06-08-2009, 08:26 AM

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Originally Posted by pstrickert

The frequency of dropped fly balls will be decreased in the next patch.

Good. Zero would be a nice frequency.

senorcoo · 06-08-2009, 08:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Killing Time

Good. Zero would be a nice frequency.

Or one per couple of months would be ok

tysok · 06-08-2009, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by senorcoo

Glad to hear it. I do like the suspense aspect like a previous poster noted. If Markus and company can apply this to a few other plays, it wouldn't be a bad thing.

What plays?
With me posting, you now have both pbp guys having said something in the thread... if there's any pbp issues, or pbp you'd like to see (like you suggest above) it would be a good time to clearly detail what they are.

Tom the Fish · 06-08-2009, 09:27 AM

I think over-sliding the base on steal attempts happen way too much. I felt this with ootp9 as well but never spoke up about it.

I've played out about 2 seasons now in ootp10 and have seen the ball pop out of the glove about 1 in every 5 games or so for a hit. Way too much. Why wouldn't this be an error anyway?

Tom

tysok · 06-08-2009, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom the Fish

I think over-sliding the base on steal attempts happen way too much. I felt this with ootp9 as well but never spoke up about it.

I've played out about 2 seasons now in ootp10 and have seen the ball pop out of the glove about 1 in every 5 games or so for a hit. Way too much. Why wouldn't this be an error anyway?

Tom

It should be relating what would be an exceptional play if it had been completed successfully. An error is if normal effort would have resulted in an out... on that play normal effort would have been to field it on a hop.

moi auci · 06-08-2009, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by tysok

What plays?
With me posting, you now have both pbp guys having said something in the thread... if there's any pbp issues, or pbp you'd like to see (like you suggest above) it would be a good time to clearly detail what they are.

I haven't had many balls dropped in play, but I would say there's too many tipped balls to the catcher and checked swing appeals (way too many tipped balls, not quite so many checked swings). Generally, though, I'm really enjoying my pbp experience.

senorcoo · 06-08-2009, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by Tom the Fish

I think over-sliding the base on steal attempts happen way too much. I felt this with ootp9 as well but never spoke up about it.

I've played out about 2 seasons now in ootp10 and have seen the ball pop out of the glove about 1 in every 5 games or so for a hit. Way too much. Why wouldn't this be an error anyway?

Tom

Yeah, the over-sliding the bag thing has been a problem for a while. Again, not something I've seen with any kind of frequency in a real game.

senorcoo · 06-08-2009, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by tysok

What plays?
With me posting, you now have both pbp guys having said something in the thread... if there's any pbp issues, or pbp you'd like to see (like you suggest above) it would be a good time to clearly detail what they are.

The main pbp issues have been pretty well laid out in this thread. Nothing that is more than just annoying really. Overall, I think the pbp is quite good. Especially the little stat drop-ins like what a guy is hitting with men is scoring position, etc.

tysok · 06-08-2009, 10:16 AM

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Originally Posted by senorcoo

Yeah, the over-sliding the bag thing has been a problem for a while. Again, not something I've seen with any kind of frequency in a real game.

I found one that didn't have a limited usage tag. I put one on it. Hopefully that should tone it down.

tysok · 06-08-2009, 10:20 AM

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Originally Posted by senorcoo

The main pbp issues have been pretty well laid out in this thread. Nothing that is more than just annoying really. Overall, I think the pbp is quite good. Especially the little stat drop-ins like what a guy is hitting with men is scoring position, etc.

You had said if we could apply the suspense aspect to a few other plays it wouldn't be a bad thing. Curious what other plays we might make a little better.

senorcoo · 06-08-2009, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by tysok

You had said if we could apply the suspense aspect to a few other plays it wouldn't be a bad thing. Curious what other plays we might make a little better.

Maybe late in a game, when the count goes to 2-2, have a pause where the pitcher steps off, or asks for another sign, wipes his brow, or the batter steps out, looks down to 3rd base for a sign, etc, before the key pitch is delivered.

Neags23 · 06-08-2009, 11:13 AM

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Originally Posted by tysok

You had said if we could apply the suspense aspect to a few other plays it wouldn't be a bad thing. Curious what other plays we might make a little better.

Not sure if these are in there, as I don't play out games terribly often. But off the top of my head:

* A sliding catch on a line drive. A pause waiting on the ump to signal if it was trapped or caught.

* A leaping catch to rob a homer. Pause waiting to see if the OF brought it back or not.

* A borderline fair/foul homerun.

senorcoo · 06-08-2009, 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Neags23

Not sure if these are in there, as I don't play out games terribly often. But off the top of my head:

* A sliding catch on a line drive. A pause waiting on the ump to signal if it was trapped or caught.

* A leaping catch to rob a homer. Pause waiting to see if the OF brought it back or not.

* A borderline fair/foul homerun.

These are all good too! I especially like the borderline HR call. You could have the umps get together and discuss it, before making the call. Again, none of these should happen too frequently, but just as a little change of pace. I think it would help even further with the immersion factor.

06-08-2009, 08:10 AM	#1 (permalink)
senorcoo Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 102 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	It's caught...nope it's dropped. I play out my games and I've noticed an inordinate amount of fly balls caught by an OF, then the OF crashes into the wall, then the ball pops out for a hit. Anyone else finding that this happens WAY TOO MUCH?

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Tom the Fish Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Jingu Stadium Posts: 419 Thanks: 54 Thanked 21x in 16 posts	I think over-sliding the base on steal attempts happen way too much. I felt this with ootp9 as well but never spoke up about it. I've played out about 2 seasons now in ootp10 and have seen the ball pop out of the glove about 1 in every 5 games or so for a hit. Way too much. Why wouldn't this be an error anyway? Tom __________________ "Any talk of rebelliousness has to begin with one's profound appreciation and understanding of tradition." - Lu Shoukun

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06-08-2009, 08:15 AM	#2 (permalink)
Broth32 Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: C-Town Posts: 384 Thanks: 5 Thanked 11x in 9 posts	Agreed - I see it at least once a game - but more like 2-3 times a game. Too much IMO.

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Tycobbler All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: 20 minutes from Comerica Park Posts: 1,723 Thanks: 105 Thanked 39x in 27 posts	I like the way the pbp displays it with the "pause" then end result. Adds a little suspense Well done guys!

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pstrickert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 5,889 Thanks: 331 Thanked 385x in 223 posts	The frequency of dropped fly balls will be decreased in the next patch.

06-08-2009, 08:21 AM	#6 (permalink)
senorcoo Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 102 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	I've played about 15 games and it seems like it's happening every other game. I understand that its not a large sample size, but I watch a pretty good amount of real baseball and I can't tell you the last time I saw it happen.