Starting unemployed and working up...

Matty86 · 06-08-2009, 11:32 AM

Just wondering when you start unemployed and try to work your way up as a manager to the Majors, like you would in a real career.... It seems like no matter how bad you do at one level you will still get job offers. Is this just random or does your performance actually play a part in what jobs open up to you?

Tin of Maize · 06-08-2009, 01:39 PM

From what I have observed, all open jobs will be offered to you regardless....

Horks · 06-08-2009, 01:51 PM

Seems to be fairly random. I'm playing a game like this, finished 550 in a short-a league, and I got no promotion on the off-season, nor did any position open up in the listings.

senorcoo · 06-08-2009, 02:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Matty86

Just wondering when you start unemployed and try to work your way up as a manager to the Majors, like you would in a real career.... It seems like no matter how bad you do at one level you will still get job offers. Is this just random or does your performance actually play a part in what jobs open up to you?

How many bad managers in real life keep getting job after job. Francona was offered the Red Sox job back in 2004, even though he never had a winning season in 4 years in Philly (77-85 was his best season in '99). Not that I'm calling him a bad manager, just illustrating that no matter how badly you do, unless you're black-listed, you get more than your fair share of chances in MLB.

Matty86 · 06-08-2009, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by senorcoo

How many bad managers in real life keep getting job after job. Francona was offered the Red Sox job back in 2004, even though he never had a winning season in 4 years in Philly (77-85 was his best season in '99). Not that I'm calling him a bad manager, just illustrating that no matter how badly you do, unless you're black-listed, you get more than your fair share of chances in MLB.

The difference being Francona was already a manager with MLB experience. I went through 1 season in the lowest league (rookie or short season or whatever it is), and won 8 games all season and was still offered a job in AA. Just a bit unrealistic. But oh well, maybe I'll just come up with some house rules.

scott1964 · 06-08-2009, 02:43 PM

I was promoted up to AAA from A in the same organization

Matty86 · 06-08-2009, 02:53 PM

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Originally Posted by scott1964

I was promoted up to AAA from A in the same organization

I imagine that was just by chance though, it would be cool if organizations promoted from within like that. I imagine that happens in real life at least through the minors.. but not sure.

krelian · 06-08-2009, 02:58 PM

How are you guys handling the nonsensical daily trades the AI does between its different minor league teams?

scott1964 · 06-08-2009, 04:35 PM

First job was with Lubbock, then off to Newark.

Matty86 · 06-08-2009, 04:44 PM

Nice, as a side note... when that league reaches current day.. would you still be coaching at over 100? Or does the game eventually kill you....?

haha

ootp3to6 · 06-08-2009, 05:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Matty86

Nice, as a side note... when that league reaches current day.. would you still be coaching at over 100? Or does the game eventually kill you....?

haha

What does happen in this situation?

Rand · 06-08-2009, 06:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ootp3to6

What does happen in this situation?

Nothing, the league goes on and you live on and keep playing until you retire.
I suppose hypothetically you could start in 1871 and keep playing into the year 3000 and have the same manager the entire time.
A little odd, but your manager persona/age is purely cosmetic anyway.

Nutlaw · 06-08-2009, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Tin of Maize

From what I have observed, all open jobs will be offered to you regardless....

No, it depends upon which league you start the game managing in. If you start as a major league manager, you'll have access to most jobs.

Also, in commish mode, every job is always available to you.

Mike Lowe · 06-09-2009, 08:06 AM

I'm starting in short-A ball. I've noticed that the Nationals GM and manager jobs opened up in June but I could not apply. How much "cred" do I need for this to open up to me?

Also, for the record, I'm managing A-ball in the Nationals organization (Vermont Lake Monsters).

cibl commish · 06-09-2009, 10:24 AM

I have found it is fairly easy to promote within the minor leagues, but I have also seen the ax fall pretty quickly as well.

Giants44 · 06-09-2009, 10:52 AM

this is one mode I have never tried since I always manage the Giants - but I must say I do think it wold be fun and interesting. Might have to fire up one of these today.

Bobble · 06-09-2009, 01:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Rand

Nothing, the league goes on and you live on and keep playing until you retire.

Please tell me that the Facegen picture of your manager eventually turns into a skeleton.

scott1964 · 06-09-2009, 01:33 PM

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Originally Posted by cibl commish

I have found it is fairly easy to promote within the minor leagues, but I have also seen the ax fall pretty quickly as well.

It does, I was with another organization and missed the playoffs by one game, and was fired.

damonrusst · 06-09-2009, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by scott1964

It does, I was with another organization and missed the playoffs by one game, and was fired.

I was in A, won the championship and was immediately promote to AA, then because of the schedule difference, took over the AA team just as their championship series was starting. I won that too which the AI rewarded me with an immediate promotion to AAA.

After a terrible year in AAA, I was offered a job with the Cubs.

scott1964 · 06-09-2009, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by ootp3to6

What does happen in this situation?

There is an option to add another manager under the game menu.

06-08-2009, 11:32 AM	#1 (permalink)
Matty86 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 232 Thanks: 23 Thanked 4x in 4 posts	Starting unemployed and working up... Just wondering when you start unemployed and try to work your way up as a manager to the Majors, like you would in a real career.... It seems like no matter how bad you do at one level you will still get job offers. Is this just random or does your performance actually play a part in what jobs open up to you?

06-08-2009, 02:43 PM	#6 (permalink)
scott1964 All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Denver Posts: 1,592 Blog Entries: 15 Thanks: 43 Thanked 60x in 50 posts	I was promoted up to AAA from A in the same organization __________________ This just feels more like waiting in line at the Department of Motor Vehicles. North American BaseBall League

06-08-2009, 04:35 PM	#9 (permalink)
scott1964 All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: Denver Posts: 1,592 Blog Entries: 15 Thanks: 43 Thanked 60x in 50 posts	First job was with Lubbock, then off to Newark. __________________ This just feels more like waiting in line at the Department of Motor Vehicles. North American BaseBall League

06-09-2009, 10:24 AM	#15 (permalink)
cibl commish All Star Reserve Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Sycamore, IL Posts: 611 Thanks: 5 Thanked 1x in 1 post	I have found it is fairly easy to promote within the minor leagues, but I have also seen the ax fall pretty quickly as well. __________________ Rick

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Giants44 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 2,039 Thanks: 25 Thanked 63x in 27 posts	this is one mode I have never tried since I always manage the Giants - but I must say I do think it wold be fun and interesting. Might have to fire up one of these today. __________________ "In a text sim - Immersion is everything" -Me "Judge a man not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character" -Martin Luther King "Not everything that counts can be counted, and not everything that can be counted counts." -Einstein "The man who views the world at 50 the same as he did at 20 has wasted 30 years of his life." -Muhammad Ali "Baseball statistics are like a girl in a bikini. They show a lot, but not everything." -Toby Harrah

06-08-2009, 01:39 PM	#2 (permalink)
Tin of Maize Minors (Single A) Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Arlington, VA Posts: 81 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	From what I have observed, all open jobs will be offered to you regardless....

06-08-2009, 01:51 PM	#3 (permalink)
Horks Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2009 Posts: 52 Thanks: 2 Thanked 1x in 1 post	Seems to be fairly random. I'm playing a game like this, finished 550 in a short-a league, and I got no promotion on the off-season, nor did any position open up in the listings.

06-08-2009, 02:58 PM	#8 (permalink)
krelian Bat Boy Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 11 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	How are you guys handling the nonsensical daily trades the AI does between its different minor league teams?

06-08-2009, 04:44 PM	#10 (permalink)
Matty86 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 232 Thanks: 23 Thanked 4x in 4 posts	Nice, as a side note... when that league reaches current day.. would you still be coaching at over 100? Or does the game eventually kill you....? haha

06-09-2009, 08:06 AM	#14 (permalink)
Mike Lowe All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,198 Thanks: 55 Thanked 18x in 9 posts	I'm starting in short-A ball. I've noticed that the Nationals GM and manager jobs opened up in June but I could not apply. How much "cred" do I need for this to open up to me? Also, for the record, I'm managing A-ball in the Nationals organization (Vermont Lake Monsters).

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