Ok this is over the top injury wise

[ehencley]

There are several different injury settings right??? I'm missing the problem here.

[jaax]

Originally Posted by PhillieFever

I hear ya.Hamels,Werth,Utley,Feliz and Moyer have all gone down recently for me,luckily,I have some good depth in AAA and I should be able to weather the storm without losing too much ground.While we're on tthe subject,I really believe that the injury file is fine,I don't see a problem with it at all.All it takes is a few looks at previous seasons' injuries to realize how often player are injured,the Phillies for example,had to use 25 different pitchers by the time the 2007 All Star game rolled around due to injuries

PhillieFever, do you play with injuries low or normal?

Similar thing happened to me in my new season.. I lost Utley almost immediately for a few weeks, then Victorino almost the next game, and Ruiz and Feliz went day to day, all in the same week. I'm only about 2-3 weeks into the season.

[bababui]

Originally Posted by megamanmatt

According to injurylog the ratio is right on in terms of how often position players get injured vs pitchers. The problem is pitchers are usually injured for longer than position players and that isn't being modeled correctly.

For a single season which doesnt mean much. Injuries have to be tracked over multiple seasons to create an accurate injury model.

[Nutlaw]

The Blue Jays just placed their closer, ace starter, and #5 starter all on the DL today in real life!

[PhillieFever]

Originally Posted by jaax

PhillieFever, do you play with injuries low or normal?

Similar thing happened to me in my new season.. I lost Utley almost immediately for a few weeks, then Victorino almost the next game, and Ruiz and Feliz went day to day, all in the same week. I'm only about 2-3 weeks into the season.

I'm playing on normal.Feliz went down first,for 4 weeks.Then Moyer,for a week,Hamels for 5 days,Werth for 10 days,and now finally Utley for 3 weeks.I brought up Jason Donald and John Mayberry,and so far they've been OK.I'm 17-15 right now,like 3 games out of first.The Mets I have to admit are pretty tough,they've taken 4 of 5 from me so far.Right now I'm thinking that I'm going to have to trade some of our good prospects for a pitcher,hopefully a stud.The wild card right now is Kyle Drabek.He's dominated the minor leagues and made it to AAA already(I let the AI promote/demote between minors)

[PhillieFever]

Originally Posted by Nutlaw

The Blue Jays just placed their closer, ace starter, and #5 starter all on the DL today in real life!

Nut,the injury model is great IMO,I understand people being taken aback by the amount because most video games do not model this anywhere near correctly.So when faced with reality for the first time,its a bit of a shock.I complained to the hills when I purchased OOTP 8(my first OOTP) about the same thing,way too many injuries,this and that.Then I did a little research figuring there was no way that many injuries occurred in baseball,I fell in line shortly thereafter.

[CBL-Commish]

I think we have to remember that each day/week/year there are many thousands of OOTP seasons played and simmed by the thousands of people who've bought the game. There have only been 133 1/2 major league seasons played in real life.

So when you see an outlier, like half your lineup being injured in one day, you need to consider that it's possible that OOTP is very reasonably modeling the frequencies of real life, but real life has orders of magnitude fewer chances for anything to occur.

Maybe the 1938 Braves had their entire infield hurt in the space of two days (made up for illustration). Everybody would be like "dude, cool thing, only happened once in history." Well, with OOTP each of us has the ability to play more games in a day than real life has seen, ever.

[Malleus Dei]

Originally Posted by satchel

Some moderator needs to combine all these ladies' "too many of my players are getting injured" posts into one big pity-party thread.

Look at that! Satchel got so drunk he thought he was me!

[Malleus Dei]

Originally Posted by PhillieFever

Nut,the injury model is great IMO,I understand people being taken aback by the amount because most video games do not model this anywhere near correctly.So when faced with reality for the first time,its a bit of a shock.

Yes, but here's the important question: does this amount of injury make the game more enjoyable or less enjoyable for each of us as players? For me the answer is less enjoyable, so I dial injuries down to low and use a custom injury.txt file. I get a game that suits me just fine that way.

But if playing Baseball Doctor Manager is your thing, then by all means go for it.

[bebop]

so far (3 1/2 years in) I havent had any huge injuries (knock on wood).
Felix Hernendez (2 time Cy winner) has made 36, 36, 35 starts through the last years. Ryan Rowland Smith has also had 30 or more starts the last three
years. Worst I've had is Guitteriez be out for 6 months, but I had
outfield depth that covered him.. Now he's a bench player, go figure.

[PhillieFever]

Originally Posted by Malleus Dei

Yes, but here's the important question: does this amount of injury make the game more enjoyable or less enjoyable for each of us as players? For me the answer is less enjoyable, so I dial injuries down to low and use a custom injury.txt file. I get a game that suits me just fine that way.

But if playing Baseball Doctor Manager is your thing, then by all means go for it.

And that's perfectly alright,that's why there are 6 different injury settings(including off),not everybody likes having to deal with them.Its just a matter of finding what your comfortable and going with it.I just don't see the problem here.A problem would be having a ton of injuries on very low,or none on the very high setting.For me,the normal setting is perfect.I like the fact that I have to have a ballclub thats deep down into the Minor leagues,I feel it adds another layer of strategy to the game but thats just me.Bottom line is,there are more than enough options to find a level you're comfortable playing at

[mickey7]

Well Phillie Fever that is the exact problem I'm having----injuries are set to very low on my 1950 historical league and it is now 6-3 1950 in the league and on my team alone 17 players have been on the disabled list, not only is that high for today's game but in 1950 it would have been astronomical---this is a problem that has plagued this game(OOTP) from the start----I have owned every iteration of this game from the original til today and this problem has been present as long as injuries have been in this game-----it is still the best baseball simulation in the world but the insistence that the injury portion of the program is not broken is simply naive.

[Malleus Dei]

Originally Posted by PhillieFever

Bottom line is,there are more than enough options to find a level you're comfortable playing at

Yes, and you should play with whatever mods and options that make for the kind of game that you enjoy the most, and that will vary from user to user.

[Mortimer]

in all these threads you get people saying too many postion players get injured.

I live in KC so will use the royals as my example because I know them. out of the postion players out of the orginal 25 man roster, they have 2 catchers (they stared with 3), 2 first basmen, 1 second a left fielder, and 3 that play all over that have yet to be injured that is 9 out of 14 probally, so almost half the postion players.

as for pitchers they have had one starter that battled with sore back a few games but never went out other than a 4 innint outing, and the closer has been out off and on over the last couple months, that is 2 out of 11 which is quit a few less injurys to the pitchers

I realize the sample size is low, but if someone followed thier team close maybe you can post thier numbers

[PhillieFever]

Originally Posted by Malleus Dei

Yes, and you should play with whatever mods and options that make for the kind of game that you enjoy the most, and that will vary from user to user.

I agree 100%.

[endgame]

Originally Posted by Malleus Dei

Look at that! Satchel got so drunk he thought he was me!

Two big laughs for both times I read this.

[neojonas]

Originally Posted by Mortimer

in all these threads you get people saying too many postion players get injured.

I don't think it's that too many position players are getting injured. It's that they are getting injured for too long.