Ok this is over the top injury wise

DCG12 · 06-17-2009, 05:05 PM

I turned injuries down to low because I felt on normal that it was just more than I wanted to deal with. Just started my second season and I am about 2 weeks in. Just played a game where I lost 1B,3B,SS,LF,CF all in the same game. Had no one left on the bench. My back up catcher was playing first and my back up 1B was playing short. If one more injury had occured I don't know if the game would let me sub pitchers into positions or just crash. Fortunatly the injuries were all 3-4 weeks no sei or cei.

I don't want to turn the injuries any lower but this is tough to deal with. I know a lot has been said about the total number of injuries in real life but I think the problem here is that in OOTP the injuries all seem to take out front line players. In real life a lot of the guys on the dl are not your star players. This is comparable to the Red Sox losing Lowell,Youkilis,Lugo,Bay, and Ellsbury all at once or the Yanks losing Tex,Jeter, A-Rod etc. I just don't think it happens that way. Oh well just my take. Thanks for letting me rant

satchel · 06-17-2009, 05:10 PM

Some moderator needs to combine all these ladies' "too many of my players are getting injured" posts into one big pity-party thread.

damientheomen3 · 06-17-2009, 05:13 PM

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Originally Posted by satchel

Some moderator needs to combine all these ladies' "too many of my players are getting injured" posts into one big pity-party thread.

amen

DCG12 · 06-17-2009, 05:15 PM

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Originally Posted by satchel

Some moderator needs to combine all these ladies' "too many of my players are getting injured" posts into one big pity-party thread.

I didn't say I was looking for pity. I will continue to play my season but I do think that many injuries in one game is too much. Show me that happening in real life. It would make headlines.

Sorry to have bothered you with my thoughts on the matter.

CalvinHobbes · 06-17-2009, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by DCG12

I didn't say I was looking for pity. I will continue to play my season but I do think that many injuries in one game is too much. Show me that happening in real life. It would make headlines.

Sorry to have bothered you with my thoughts on the matter.

I don't think that was necessarily directed at you DCG12. It's just that there are all kinds of threads out there about too many injuries, etc.

I would suggest you look into a post by Matter2003, I'll try and paste it here:

More realistic injury file

He's redone the injury.txt file to try and reflect the more day to day variety injuries and has completely gotten rid of cei's. Maybe give that a try and see how it works out.

I agree that losing half of your starting 9 in one game is absurd.

fantom1979 · 06-17-2009, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by DCG12

I turned injuries down to low because I felt on normal that it was just more than I wanted to deal with. Just started my second season and I am about 2 weeks in. Just played a game where I lost 1B,3B,SS,LF,CF all in the same game. Had no one left on the bench. My back up catcher was playing first and my back up 1B was playing short. If one more injury had occured I don't know if the game would let me sub pitchers into positions or just crash. Fortunatly the injuries were all 3-4 weeks no sei or cei.

I don't want to turn the injuries any lower but this is tough to deal with. I know a lot has been said about the total number of injuries in real life but I think the problem here is that in OOTP the injuries all seem to take out front line players. In real life a lot of the guys on the dl are not your star players. This is comparable to the Red Sox losing Lowell,Youkilis,Lugo,Bay, and Ellsbury all at once or the Yanks losing Tex,Jeter, A-Rod etc. I just don't think it happens that way. Oh well just my take. Thanks for letting me rant

Don't mind Satchel, he hasn't had his hug today. Any complaint that is posted he instantly labels a whine fest.

megamanmatt · 06-17-2009, 05:27 PM

Go take a look at the list of players who are injured on MLB.com A lot of teams could almost put together a new active roster with how many injured players there are. The only real issue with injuries is the happen to position players a bit too much. Other than that they're fine.

DCG12 · 06-17-2009, 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by CalvinHobbes

I don't think that was necessarily directed at you DCG12. It's just that there are all kinds of threads out there about too many injuries, etc.

I would suggest you look into a post by Matter2003, I'll try and paste it here:

More realistic injury file

He's redone the injury.txt file to try and reflect the more day to day variety injuries and has completely gotten rid of cei's. Maybe give that a try and see how it works out.

I agree that losing half of your starting 9 in one game is absurd.

I had been following that thread but hadn't downloaded the file yet. I will do that and see how it works.

DCG12 · 06-17-2009, 05:36 PM

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Originally Posted by megamanmatt

Go take a look at the list of players who are injured on MLB.com A lot of teams could almost put together a new active roster with how many injured players there are. The only real issue with injuries is the happen to position players a bit too much. Other than that they're fine.

Maybe I wasn't real clear but I'm not unhappy with a lot of injuries per se but the quality of players going down all at once. The point I was trying to make by using the Red Sox and Yankees as examples is that you shouldn't lose the core of your team like that. I lost all my best hitters both contact and power. I will be fielding a triple a team for the next 3-4 weeks. If I had lost these players over the course of the season i.e. at different times that would be fine.

megamanmatt · 06-17-2009, 05:45 PM

No I get that man. There is also the possibility of it being a fluke. I was trying to find out what what is the "record" for most players injured in a game to just to compare and see if it's possible. didn't find what I was looking for. All I learned was baseball has the highest fatality rate for kids 3-14. That was new.

satchel · 06-17-2009, 05:45 PM

I'm sorry if I'm over-reacting, but this is the fourth thread about this (no.1, no.2, no.3), in the last seven days.

When bad things happen to my players, I just bear with it.

DCG12 · 06-17-2009, 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by satchel

I'm sorry if I'm over-reacting, but this is the fourth thread about this (no.1, no.2, no.3), in the last seven days.

When bad things happen to my players, I just bear with it.

But if there have been 4 threads in a week doesn't that suggest that there is a certain percentage of people who think that something isn't right? If you look at one of my posts above you will notice I am "bearing with it" also. I am continuing on in my season. This could have been a fluke because I was not unhappy with injuries in my first season once I set them on low. I just think in trying to replicate real life that something is not altogether right and things like this pop up. Again I'm not sure that it is the number of injuries but the number happening to star players.

PhillieFever · 06-17-2009, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by satchel

I'm sorry if I'm over-reacting, but this is the fourth thread about this (no.1, no.2, no.3), in the last seven days.

When bad things happen to my players, I just bear with it.

I hear ya.Hamels,Werth,Utley,Feliz and Moyer have all gone down recently for me,luckily,I have some good depth in AAA and I should be able to weather the storm without losing too much ground.While we're on tthe subject,I really believe that the injury file is fine,I don't see a problem with it at all.All it takes is a few looks at previous seasons' injuries to realize how often player are injured,the Phillies for example,had to use 25 different pitchers by the time the 2007 All Star game rolled around due to injuries

bababui · 06-17-2009, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by megamanmatt

Go take a look at the list of players who are injured on MLB.com A lot of teams could almost put together a new active roster with how many injured players there are. The only real issue with injuries is the happen to position players a bit too much. Other than that they're fine.

IMO, a one or even two year injury study is too small a sample to make a realistic injury db. It should be at least 10 years and probably be decade specific.

Also, age ought to play a factor in type, frequency and duration of injury.

Afino · 06-17-2009, 06:43 PM

I lost my 3B and SS in the same game. Lost my closer in the next.

Just lost the probable league MVP in the middle of the playoffs. I essentially have no offense right now.

You know why I haven't bitched about it? Because I'm still WINNING.

Killing Time · 06-17-2009, 08:08 PM

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Originally Posted by satchel

Some moderator needs to combine all these ladies' "too many of my players are getting injured" posts into one big pity-party thread.

That comment was far too dismissive.

Killing Time · 06-17-2009, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by satchel

When bad things happen to my players, I just bear with it.

Good for you, but a whole lot of people really don't like the new injury levels, and they want other people to know it.

Afino · 06-17-2009, 08:22 PM

I do agree with the lopsidedness of the hitter to pitcher injury ratio though. That needs to be fixed.

SandMan · 06-17-2009, 08:23 PM

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Age ought to play a factor in type, frequency and duration of injury.

There should be a multiplier for a field called conditioning or something like that and as a player gets older his multiplier goes up. Then you have a standard injury file, but it gives different duration based on the players age/conditioning factors.... just an idea.

megamanmatt · 06-17-2009, 08:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Afino

I do agree with the lopsidedness of the hitter to pitcher injury ratio though. That needs to be fixed.

According to injurylog the ratio is right on in terms of how often position players get injured vs pitchers. The problem is pitchers are usually injured for longer than position players and that isn't being modeled correctly.

06-17-2009, 05:05 PM	#1 (permalink)
DCG12 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Traveling through another dimension-not one of only sight and sound,but of mind. A journey into a wondrous land whose boundries are those of imagination. Posts: 611 Thanks: 8 Thanked 176x in 88 posts	Ok this is over the top injury wise I turned injuries down to low because I felt on normal that it was just more than I wanted to deal with. Just started my second season and I am about 2 weeks in. Just played a game where I lost 1B,3B,SS,LF,CF all in the same game. Had no one left on the bench. My back up catcher was playing first and my back up 1B was playing short. If one more injury had occured I don't know if the game would let me sub pitchers into positions or just crash. Fortunatly the injuries were all 3-4 weeks no sei or cei. I don't want to turn the injuries any lower but this is tough to deal with. I know a lot has been said about the total number of injuries in real life but I think the problem here is that in OOTP the injuries all seem to take out front line players. In real life a lot of the guys on the dl are not your star players. This is comparable to the Red Sox losing Lowell,Youkilis,Lugo,Bay, and Ellsbury all at once or the Yanks losing Tex,Jeter, A-Rod etc. I just don't think it happens that way. Oh well just my take. Thanks for letting me rant

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megamanmatt All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lakeville, Minnesota Posts: 1,602 Thanks: 90 Thanked 359x in 223 posts Infractions: 3/0 (0)	Go take a look at the list of players who are injured on MLB.com A lot of teams could almost put together a new active roster with how many injured players there are. The only real issue with injuries is the happen to position players a bit too much. Other than that they're fine.

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megamanmatt All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Lakeville, Minnesota Posts: 1,602 Thanks: 90 Thanked 359x in 223 posts Infractions: 3/0 (0)	No I get that man. There is also the possibility of it being a fluke. I was trying to find out what what is the "record" for most players injured in a game to just to compare and see if it's possible. didn't find what I was looking for. All I learned was baseball has the highest fatality rate for kids 3-14. That was new.

06-17-2009, 05:45 PM	#11 (permalink)
satchel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Ft Smith AR Posts: 2,680 Thanks: 52 Thanked 48x in 26 posts	I'm sorry if I'm over-reacting, but this is the fourth thread about this (no.1, no.2, no.3), in the last seven days. When bad things happen to my players, I just bear with it.