National Teams

[Mortimer]

I am thinking the answer is no seeing as how I have not seen how it could work. But does anyone know if you can make a league where the teams are from differnent nations, like the olympics.

I would love to make like a euro league where englands team has only english, and frances team has on french, or even have all the latin couries in a leage and have good baseball

but anyone know of a way to make this work?

[tysok]

It's possible with the foreign player limits, setting that to no foreigners and basing the team in that country would result in all players on that team having to be from that country. I've done that once for testing...

Only catch is you have to edit the baseball level (whatever they call it) so that all those countries are equally good. It won't do it by itself (at least it didn't last year, and I never heard it being fixed).
-I set up teams in a lot of countries, say Iran and Pakistan, and England etc... most teams started dying because the game didn't make enough new players to keep them alive. It didn't create them because the level of baseball in some countries was low, so it created players based on that instead of based on the fact that there was a team that needed players from that country.
-I never set the baseball level higher and tested again, just assuming that might fix it.
-Also without upping the baseball level whatever players it does create would be based on the lower level... which I also saw the result of. While the US (or other countries that were set high) dominated the league, countries like Iran (low baseball quality) were losing 90+% of their games because the players were created with pathetic contact, power, avoid Ks, stuff, movement, etc.

So it can be done... you'll just have to change a lot of settings in some text files.

[Mortimer]

I thought the no foreign liimits effected the league, I can make a legue of just americans, but my under standing was even if I have tornto, since there were no foringers and the league was US the canadian team woudl be all US players

[tysok]

Originally Posted by Mortimer

I thought the no foreign liimits effected the league, I can make a legue of just americans, but my under standing was even if I have tornto, since there were no foringers and the league was US the canadian team woudl be all US players

There was an option in OOTP9 to base that on team or league. I don't know if they took it out, doesn't sound like something Markus would do though.

I'll see if I can check it out tonight - but tonight is going to be busy. Should be an option when you first set up a league I think, in that same area where you set the percentage.

[Mortimer]

ok I found it, that is why I never got it you have to set it to a limited number of forign players to get the option to base that on team or league nationality

Odd I did not see that in the manual just saw about the league nation

[Alan T]

It is pretty easy to do if you don't mind it being small scale (only the op 12-20 baseball talented countries), otherwise you run into problems with as was mentioned teams not having enough players to sustain a squad.

I ran a "World Baseball Classic" with players from my online league that I commish recently which was kind of fun seeing some of our online league greats playing for their home squads. You can see how it worked here:

Introducing the FOOL World Baseball Classic! - Front Office Football Central

The longest part of the entire process is just in setting up the teams, having to scroll through to the right country each time.

If you want something on a bigger scale, then as was mentioned, you will have to go into the world files and make sure that the level of talent is increased so lesser countries will have enough major league quality players to participate.

[fhomess]

Originally Posted by tysok

It's possible with the foreign player limits, setting that to no foreigners and basing the team in that country would result in all players on that team having to be from that country. I've done that once for testing...

Only catch is you have to edit the baseball level (whatever they call it) so that all those countries are equally good. It won't do it by itself (at least it didn't last year, and I never heard it being fixed).
-I set up teams in a lot of countries, say Iran and Pakistan, and England etc... most teams started dying because the game didn't make enough new players to keep them alive. It didn't create them because the level of baseball in some countries was low, so it created players based on that instead of based on the fact that there was a team that needed players from that country.
-I never set the baseball level higher and tested again, just assuming that might fix it.
-Also without upping the baseball level whatever players it does create would be based on the lower level... which I also saw the result of. While the US (or other countries that were set high) dominated the league, countries like Iran (low baseball quality) were losing 90+% of their games because the players were created with pathetic contact, power, avoid Ks, stuff, movement, etc.

It was my understanding that baseball level doesn't affect the quality of players from a given country but the quantity. So while the percentage of US players that are stars might not be any different from the percentage of Iranian players that are stars, you'll get a much smaller player pool from which to make up the 25-man roster. I don't know if I misunderstood that or if it has changed, but I did think that was how it worked.

That said, either way it sill makes sense to even out the baseball level (at least to some extent), so you don't run out of players for a team.

[Mortimer]

I did a test using england, gemany, italy, russia, spain. france greese, and norway, the league is based in switzerland but they did not have a team. they are ways neutral

It seemed to have just enough players to field a team I gave them a 3 player forigner limit, and they had free agents for every team, oddly the minors had mostly forign players.

I may tweek it a bit but odds are it could work, if anything I will sim until the drift and see if I need to bump up the draft pool to get more team players

[tysok]

Originally Posted by fhomess

It was my understanding that baseball level doesn't affect the quality of players from a given country but the quantity. So while the percentage of US players that are stars might not be any different from the percentage of Iranian players that are stars, you'll get a much smaller player pool from which to make up the 25-man roster. I don't know if I misunderstood that or if it has changed, but I did think that was how it worked.

That said, either way it sill makes sense to even out the baseball level (at least to some extent), so you don't run out of players for a team.

You could be right. I just noticed the teams in high quality countries were dominating while it was record level futility for the others. That would make sense though... the Iranian team is fielding what the game creates for it, and it's not creating enough players for Iran. It's creating an abundance of US players (or high quality countries) so the US team can create an abnormally high percentage of stars on their teams, while Iran fields what would be a normal team.

You have to change it so all the countries have higher quality though. Iran died because the ENTIRE 25 team league (with 4 levels of minors) contained only 8 Iranian players after 10 years.

[OakDragon]

That's interesting. I never had that problem in 9. I created a league of European teams and they all seemed to win championships about randomly without my ever having to adjust their baseball quality. I haven't yet tried that in X, however.

[WarFisch]

I solved this with feeder leagues for each country that needs players. Just set the feeder to have 0 foreign players and you will solve the lack of players issue. (Each country gets its own feeder with the appropriate number of teams. I use 1 or 2 COL and 1 or 2 HS per team of that nationality, depending on how many draft rounds I want.)

[Mortimer]

with my test as well as others' suggestions I think I am about ready, am going to try to stick with larger countries in europe and create a feed for everyone.

the only issue left is I gave the teams 3 non nation players in the test but the minors were often filled with all but the teams nation, yet there were free agents for them, is there a way to make sure teams take all they can from thier nation in the minors then only take a few from other countries?