Red Sox named wrong ???

MightyQuinn · 06-23-2009, 12:44 AM

I got info from the MLB.Com Site and it lists the Red Sox

1901-02 Boston Americans
1903-06 Boston Pilgrims

But when I did a historical import of the 1903 Red Sox it came up as Boston Americans ???

Solonor · 06-23-2009, 06:30 AM

I don't know where you saw that on MLB.com, and far be it from me to say that the MLB ever gets things wrong (heh), but the Red Sox didn't have an official nickname until they became the Red Sox in 1908. They were called a lot of different things, including the Pilgrims (but only in 1907), Somersets, Bostons, Pymouth Rocks and Collinsites. Boston Americans is the commonly used nickname for any historical reference.

Boston Red Sox Team History & Encyclopedia - Baseball-Reference.com
Boston Red Sox - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Boston Red Sox

Killing Time · 06-23-2009, 08:18 AM

For years they were unofficially called the Dead Sox.

kcroyalgm · 06-23-2009, 05:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Killing Time

For years they were unofficially called the Dead Sox.

Starring Don Buddin and Ted Lepcio.

kcroyalgm · 06-23-2009, 05:55 PM

Dola

Professional Baseball Franchises by Peter Filichia is a book I use a lot to help me name fictional and historical teams.

It lists:
Boston Red Sox (1907-present) renamed from
Boston Pilgrims (1903-1906) renamed from
Boston Somersets (1901-1902) the charter AL franchise.
It says the Somersets were also know as Plymouth Rocks, Boston Speed Boys, and Boston Puritans.

It never mentions the Boston Americans.

I'm not claiming it's authoritative.
Just saying what it says.

Solonor · 06-23-2009, 05:59 PM

And Pumpsie Green.

Solonor · 06-23-2009, 06:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by kcroyalgm

Dola

Professional Baseball Franchises by Peter Filichia is a book I use a lot to help me name fictional and historical teams.

It lists:
Boston Red Sox (1907-present) renamed from
Boston Pilgrims (1903-1906) renamed from
Boston Somersets (1901-1902) the charter AL franchise.
It says the Somersets were also know as Plymouth Rocks, Boston Speed Boys, and Boston Puritans.

It never mentions the Boston Americans.

I'm not claiming it's authoritative.
Just saying what it says.

They weren't the Americans either. They really didn't have an official nickname. The current sources just use "Americans" to have something to put there (and to distinguish them from the National League team in Boston).

The Boston Pilgrims Never Existed by Bill Nowlin

kcroyalgm · 06-23-2009, 06:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Solonor

And Pumpsie Green.

reminds me of when Elijah "Pumpsie" Green and Gene Conley jumped the team bus, got drunk, and tried to go to Israel after Conley was the losing pitcher in a game against the dreaded Yankees.

For some great Gene Conley information see:
Conley's stories fit to print - The Boston Globe

(WARNING: If you hate Dan Shaughnessy, don't click, but the story's very good.)

06-23-2009, 12:44 AM	#1 (permalink)
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06-23-2009, 06:30 AM	#2 (permalink)
Solonor Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Orlando Posts: 4,213 Thanks: 154 Thanked 111x in 66 posts	I don't know where you saw that on MLB.com, and far be it from me to say that the MLB ever gets things wrong (heh), but the Red Sox didn't have an official nickname until they became the Red Sox in 1908. They were called a lot of different things, including the Pilgrims (but only in 1907), Somersets, Bostons, Pymouth Rocks and Collinsites. Boston Americans is the commonly used nickname for any historical reference. Boston Red Sox Team History & Encyclopedia - Baseball-Reference.com Boston Red Sox - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia Boston Red Sox __________________ Solonor's Groovy Computer Baseball League - Making baseball a hobbit since 2003! "Beings will come, Frodo. The one constant through all the years has been baseball. Middle Earth has rolled by like an army of Mumakil. It has been erased like a slate, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Frodo. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again. Oh... beings will come Frodo. Beings will most definitely come." - Gladden Field of Dreams

06-23-2009, 05:55 PM	#5 (permalink)
kcroyalgm All Star Reserve Join Date: Jun 2007 Posts: 510 Thanks: 2 Thanked 14x in 12 posts	Dola Professional Baseball Franchises by Peter Filichia is a book I use a lot to help me name fictional and historical teams. It lists: Boston Red Sox (1907-present) renamed from Boston Pilgrims (1903-1906) renamed from Boston Somersets (1901-1902) the charter AL franchise. It says the Somersets were also know as Plymouth Rocks, Boston Speed Boys, and Boston Puritans. It never mentions the Boston Americans. I'm not claiming it's authoritative. Just saying what it says. __________________ Up Kerry! OOTP Leagues: MBBA, OTBA

06-23-2009, 05:59 PM	#6 (permalink)
Solonor Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Orlando Posts: 4,213 Thanks: 154 Thanked 111x in 66 posts	And Pumpsie Green. __________________ Solonor's Groovy Computer Baseball League - Making baseball a hobbit since 2003! "Beings will come, Frodo. The one constant through all the years has been baseball. Middle Earth has rolled by like an army of Mumakil. It has been erased like a slate, rebuilt and erased again. But baseball has marked the time. This field, this game: it's a part of our past, Frodo. It reminds of us of all that once was good and it could be again. Oh... beings will come Frodo. Beings will most definitely come." - Gladden Field of Dreams

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