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battists · 07-01-2009, 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by eMLBCommish

Shouldn't you still be trying to get back into the Majors?

Hey, he'd be the second starter on the Phillies even right now. :P

Pike · 07-01-2009, 10:49 PM

LOL, yeah I get mistaken for the goat-man all the time.

It was a thrill though when he signed with the Red Sox. I have the jersey still. In a nerdy kind of way, it was really neat to hear the guys on the radio talk about Boston pitcher Matt Clement.

PhillieFever · 07-01-2009, 11:03 PM

Jeesh,what a mess.I feel for you guys,I really do.Hopefully SF isn't as bad as they seem and things work out without the need for litigation.

chezboots · 07-02-2009, 12:58 AM

This whole deal is like the iPhone, they release it at $400 few months later it's half price and the people who paid 4 hundy are pissed. At first I was mad about the price drop but now I'm happy I paid extra for a solid version and not a unsupported version, I would rather give my money to Markus who put his heart and soul into the game than Bill "Spaceman" Lee who just threw his name onto the game and did some dumb video and is now cashing in on Markus' hard work.

Does the SF version come with the MLB start up or built in downloads? If not then it's worth the extra $10 just for those features.

Markus Heinsohn · 07-02-2009, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by StyxNCa

With all the conflicts they've had I'm surprised I hadn't heard of them before. Thanks for the link.

With their history is Markus really surprised they slashed the price? I don't know why anyone would want to get involved with them.

Well, their known conflicts were under their former ownership. The reason for our deal with them was simple, we wanted to get the game in retail which is what they promised to do, in a nice way.

Pike · 07-02-2009, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Well, their known conflicts were under their former ownership. The reason for our deal with them was simple, we wanted to get the game in retail which is what they promised to do, in a nice way.

Looks like the new ownership is taking the same tact as the old, unfortunately.

In any case, Markus thank you again for your PM. I hope this is resolved quickly. Until then, I'll certainly be telling folks to stay away from this SF version of the game.

eMLBCommish · 07-02-2009, 08:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Well, their known conflicts were under their former ownership. The reason for our deal with them was simple, we wanted to get the game in retail which is what they promised to do, in a nice way.

My experience: Someone who doesn't want to bear the sins of the past regime wouldn't use the same name and keep the same reputation. You can't change a tiger's stripes.

StyxNCa · 07-02-2009, 10:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Well, their known conflicts were under their former ownership. The reason for our deal with them was simple, we wanted to get the game in retail which is what they promised to do, in a nice way.

New ownership doesn't necessarily mean new policies. I think I would have had to find something telling me how they operate differently now with evidence to support it before I even considered doing business with them.

Ryan S · 07-02-2009, 05:35 PM

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Originally Posted by battists

Guys, there are a lot of assumptions going on above about what will or won't happen, and who is or isn't "in the right." There's no point in getting riled up talking about what is supported or not supported right now.

If OOTP entered into any kind of contract with Strategy First, then decided not to support paying customers because of a disagreement with the company, it is pretty clear that OOTP is in the wrong.

As it stands, paying customers are suffering because of a fight between two companies, and those customers have every right to be annoyed.

Andreas Raht · 07-02-2009, 07:04 PM

There is no fight at all, and the technical problems will be resolved. Next week we'll release a patch for the Strategy First version!

PhillieFever · 07-02-2009, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Andreas Raht

There is no fight at all, and the technical problems will be resolved. Next week we'll release a patch for the Strategy First version!

So,how was your vacation? LOL

Pike · 07-02-2009, 11:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Ryan S

If OOTP entered into any kind of contract with Strategy First, then decided not to support paying customers because of a disagreement with the company, it is pretty clear that OOTP is in the wrong.

As it stands, paying customers are suffering because of a fight between two companies, and those customers have every right to be annoyed.

I don't want to be one of those folks who complains, is taken care of, then never is heard from again.

So.....

Yes, as someone caught in this situation, I was annoyed.

But I have to say that Markus got back to me, gave me a solution and all is well.

I think it comes down to Markus having selected a bad partner to work with.

Its a crappy situation, but in the end I can only say that the OOTP folks have made good on their promise to work things out, at least from my perspective.

So thanks, guys.

pstrickert · 07-03-2009, 12:46 AM

I had no doubt Markus would make it right. He's that kind of guy. That's why so many of us have remained loyal to him over the years. He (and his boys) have no interest in ripping anybody off. They're out to earn an honest buck (or euro).

battists · 07-03-2009, 12:59 AM

Just to be clear, despite what is on some Wikipedia page, there's no one here saying there's a bad business partner or anything. There's a miscommunication that is being worked out, and we're confident we'll be able to post a clarifying statement about the whole thing some time soon! (There are a few people on vacation, so I can't promise when it will be!)

bosunmate · 07-03-2009, 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by pstrickert

I had no doubt Markus would make it right. He's that kind of guy. That's why so many of us have remained loyal to him over the years. He (and his boys) have no interest in ripping anybody off. They're out to earn an honest buck (or euro).

I agree Markus has always been fair and honest.....

Déjà Bru · 07-03-2009, 01:24 PM

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Originally Posted by bosunmate

I agree Markus has always been fair and honest.....

True, and if I get the gist of this thread, and with all due respect to Pike, I'm with OFG on this non-issue.

EagleEye_0 · 07-03-2009, 08:53 PM

Sounds great, I knew you guys would work this out. And I look forward to getting the new patch and really starting to play the game!

Markus Heinsohn · 07-06-2009, 01:18 PM

We have settled the issues and the patch for the Strategy First version of OOTP will be available shortly on their site!

Cheers,
Markus

EagleEye_0 · 07-06-2009, 05:06 PM

Excellent, thanks Markus and Co.

fluffone · 07-06-2009, 11:07 PM

I know it's not this website,but for any thinking of the Strategy first edition,it's showing up on their website as 79.99 with a 40.00 discount not the 19.99 originally mentioned. If they don't fix the pricing,might as well buy it directly from OOTP

07-01-2009, 11:03 PM	#43 (permalink)
PhillieFever Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Philly Posts: 2,609 Thanked 27x in 20 posts	Jeesh,what a mess.I feel for you guys,I really do.Hopefully SF isn't as bad as they seem and things work out without the need for litigation. __________________ Philadelphia Phillies World Champions: 1980,2008 National League Champions: 1915,1950,1980,1983,1993,2008,2009

07-02-2009, 07:04 PM	#50 (permalink)
Andreas Raht Administrator Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Hollern/Stade/Germany Posts: 5,016 Thanked 89x in 31 posts	There is no fight at all, and the technical problems will be resolved. Next week we'll release a patch for the Strategy First version! __________________ Andreas Raht andreas@ootpdevelopments.com Out of the Park Developments Out of the Park Baseball Development Team Title Bout Development Team

07-03-2009, 12:59 AM	#54 (permalink)
battists OOTP Developments Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 15,870 Blog Entries: 7 Thanked 87x in 37 posts	Just to be clear, despite what is on some Wikipedia page, there's no one here saying there's a bad business partner or anything. There's a miscommunication that is being worked out, and we're confident we'll be able to post a clarifying statement about the whole thing some time soon! (There are a few people on vacation, so I can't promise when it will be!) __________________ Follow us on Twitter \|\| Follow us on Facebook! \|\| Buy OOTP Developments' Games! OOTP 10 Tech Support \|\| OOTP 10 Patches/Updates \|\| OOTP Merchandise

07-06-2009, 11:07 PM	#60 (permalink)
fluffone Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 20	Pricing issue I know it's not this website,but for any thinking of the Strategy first edition,it's showing up on their website as 79.99 with a 40.00 discount not the 19.99 originally mentioned. If they don't fix the pricing,might as well buy it directly from OOTP

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07-01-2009, 10:49 PM	#42 (permalink)
Pike Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 40 Thanked 1x in 1 post	LOL, yeah I get mistaken for the goat-man all the time. It was a thrill though when he signed with the Red Sox. I have the jersey still. In a nerdy kind of way, it was really neat to hear the guys on the radio talk about Boston pitcher Matt Clement.

07-02-2009, 12:58 AM	#44 (permalink)
chezboots Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 44	This whole deal is like the iPhone, they release it at $400 few months later it's half price and the people who paid 4 hundy are pissed. At first I was mad about the price drop but now I'm happy I paid extra for a solid version and not a unsupported version, I would rather give my money to Markus who put his heart and soul into the game than Bill "Spaceman" Lee who just threw his name onto the game and did some dumb video and is now cashing in on Markus' hard work. Does the SF version come with the MLB start up or built in downloads? If not then it's worth the extra $10 just for those features.

07-03-2009, 12:46 AM	#53 (permalink)
pstrickert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 3,784 Thanked 8x in 8 posts	I had no doubt Markus would make it right. He's that kind of guy. That's why so many of us have remained loyal to him over the years. He (and his boys) have no interest in ripping anybody off. They're out to earn an honest buck (or euro).

07-03-2009, 08:53 PM	#57 (permalink)
EagleEye_0 All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,429	Sounds great, I knew you guys would work this out. And I look forward to getting the new patch and really starting to play the game!

07-06-2009, 01:18 PM	#58 (permalink)
Markus Heinsohn Developer OOTP Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Heinbockel, Germany Posts: 10,343 Thanked 242x in 63 posts	We have settled the issues and the patch for the Strategy First version of OOTP will be available shortly on their site! Cheers, Markus

07-06-2009, 05:06 PM	#59 (permalink)
EagleEye_0 All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,429	Excellent, thanks Markus and Co.

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