Players start playing at age ZERO.

zuty · 07-03-2009, 12:42 AM

I'm beginning to get a little frustrated with some of the inappropriate stuff happening in leagues I'm creating. I'm using default settings, just playing OOTPX out of the box. (Well, out of the box with the most recent patch I could find.)

Today, I started a historical league in 1871, the first year allowed by the game. The only setting I changed was to not save box scores and game logs. I simulated from 1871 to 2016 with the intention of expanding the league manually at that point, and becoming manager of a new team.

Before starting, I took a look at the historical leaderboards. Ah, Barry Bonds hit 785 homers. Ah, Lou Gehrig has the best career batting average. Ah, John Murphy holds the record with 662 wins.

WHAT?

I had to look at this guy. 662 wins? Wait a minute... Drafted in 1883 by St. Louis, he went on to play for 38 seasons. And his birthday -- 5/5/82. Yes, he was drafted at the ripe young age of one. Played until he was 38. Ha ha, he retired early!

I looked around some more, and found another player -- Bill Sweeney. Bill was ALSO born on 5/5/82. And he made his Major League debut in 1881. Right, a year BEFORE he was born.

The screen shots below are John Murphy (first) and Bill Sweeney (second).

Can anyone shed some light on this issue? Is this an old issue and my patch isn't working? Is this unique to me and my league?

Left-handed Badger · 07-03-2009, 01:07 AM

Well, I did see one classic Twilight Zone episode the other night centering around a new pitcher for a last place baseball team that was really a robot.

bababui · 07-03-2009, 01:12 AM

Are you sure the AI isnt merging the players stats from past lives?

brewdog · 07-03-2009, 01:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Left-handed Badger

Well, I did see one classic Twilight Zone episode the other night centering around a new pitcher for a last place baseball team that was really a robot.

"I just couldn't find it in my heart to strike those poor fellows out."
Classic episode.

zuty · 07-03-2009, 02:14 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by bababui

Are you sure the AI isnt merging the players stats from past lives?

No... But how would I check for something like that?

The screen shots certainly suggest ONE career, not two different ones merged together. The stats remain consistent as if it was one player who actually played for 38 years.

jwinbigler · 07-03-2009, 04:54 AM

I remember seeing something like this before on the board. I think it had something to do with the historical database not having birthdays for everyone and assigning a default (which obviously has a bug involved). I'm pretty sure it's a known issue that's being addressed, but you can try searching the boards to find out for sure.

Raidergoo · 07-03-2009, 07:27 AM

This is a known issue with a handful of historical players with no birthday. Check Bill Sweeney out, for example. I have seen him pitch for 38 seasons.

risp2out · 07-03-2009, 09:41 AM

If this isn't going to be fixed, could we sticky a thread where a list is compiled? That way we could at least fix them manually without having to scroll through each and every draft class.

I reported a handful of these on the first day that OOTPX was released.

07-03-2009, 12:42 AM	#1 (permalink)
zuty Minors (Double A) Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: New York City Posts: 170 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	Players start playing at age ZERO. I'm beginning to get a little frustrated with some of the inappropriate stuff happening in leagues I'm creating. I'm using default settings, just playing OOTPX out of the box. (Well, out of the box with the most recent patch I could find.) Today, I started a historical league in 1871, the first year allowed by the game. The only setting I changed was to not save box scores and game logs. I simulated from 1871 to 2016 with the intention of expanding the league manually at that point, and becoming manager of a new team. Before starting, I took a look at the historical leaderboards. Ah, Barry Bonds hit 785 homers. Ah, Lou Gehrig has the best career batting average. Ah, John Murphy holds the record with 662 wins. WHAT? I had to look at this guy. 662 wins? Wait a minute... Drafted in 1883 by St. Louis, he went on to play for 38 seasons. And his birthday -- 5/5/82. Yes, he was drafted at the ripe young age of one. Played until he was 38. Ha ha, he retired early! I looked around some more, and found another player -- Bill Sweeney. Bill was ALSO born on 5/5/82. And he made his Major League debut in 1881. Right, a year BEFORE he was born. The screen shots below are John Murphy (first) and Bill Sweeney (second). Can anyone shed some light on this issue? Is this an old issue and my patch isn't working? Is this unique to me and my league? Attached Images

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Left-handed Badger All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: at the altar of the baseball god praying for middle infield that can catch the ball Posts: 1,970 Thanks: 0 Thanked 65x in 56 posts	Well, I did see one classic Twilight Zone episode the other night centering around a new pitcher for a last place baseball team that was really a robot. __________________ -Left-handed groundball specialist -Strikeouts are for wimps

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07-03-2009, 04:54 AM	#6 (permalink)
jwinbigler Minors (Single A) Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 71 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	I remember seeing something like this before on the board. I think it had something to do with the historical database not having birthdays for everyone and assigning a default (which obviously has a bug involved). I'm pretty sure it's a known issue that's being addressed, but you can try searching the boards to find out for sure.

07-03-2009, 07:27 AM	#7 (permalink)
Raidergoo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 8,403 Thanks: 104 Thanked 78x in 52 posts	This is a known issue with a handful of historical players with no birthday. Check Bill Sweeney out, for example. I have seen him pitch for 38 seasons.

07-03-2009, 09:41 AM	#8 (permalink)
risp2out Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 279 Thanks: 110 Thanked 85x in 44 posts	If this isn't going to be fixed, could we sticky a thread where a list is compiled? That way we could at least fix them manually without having to scroll through each and every draft class. I reported a handful of these on the first day that OOTPX was released.