High Stamina, But only two pitches

Imran · 09-03-2009, 07:33 AM

Player Report for #1 David 'Bye Bye' Edwards

He has only two pitches but they're both 10s. He is really in a class on his own with his ratings. He also has 7 stamina. He was awfully good as the closer of my team last season, (I only began managing late into the season). I am curious if you feel that he could be a dominant starter. His ratings as a closer are even more ridiculous than what he currently has. I let him start for the last 4 games of this season and he did pretty well.

8 IP, 4 H, 2 ER, 1 BB, 8 Ks
7 IP, 5 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 10 Ks
8 IP, 4 H, 2 ER, 1 BB, 9 Ks
7.1 IP, 6 H, 4 ER, 1 BB, 6 Ks

Seems like he could be a pretty good starter with only two pitches in this small sample size. What do you think?

Raffke · 09-03-2009, 08:53 AM

I had a guy very similar to this once who I converted to a starter - 2 dominant pitches, high stamina. He was great the majority of the time and was a real anchor for the rotation. I think a guy with 2 awesome pitches has surely got to be better than a guy with 3 average pitches.

The only problem with my guy (I can't remember his name) was that he got injured pretty regularly .... but so did everyone else on the team.

jasonn29tn14 · 09-03-2009, 09:38 AM

Depending on his age he might actually develope a third pitch as well.

Bluenoser · 09-03-2009, 12:36 PM

What are his two pitches?

Imran · 09-03-2009, 06:02 PM

Fastball and Sinker, not to mention 67 percent ground ball percentage in a league where there a ton of small ball parks.

satchel · 09-03-2009, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Raffke

I had a guy very similar to this once who I converted to a starter - 2 dominant pitches, high stamina. He was great the majority of the time and was a real anchor for the rotation.

Two great pitches and a high endurance? I've said it many times—these guys do fine as starters.

ms2002 · 09-03-2009, 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by Imran

Fastball and Sinker, not to mention 67 percent ground ball percentage in a league where there a ton of small ball parks.

One issue with OOTP is that a pitcher with this repertoire would get POUNDED if they went more than 5 innings. There is a difference between a pitcher with a plus sinker and a plus curveball.

A pitcher with a '10' curveball and a '10' fastball would likely succeed in a starting role (see Erik Bedard), but a pitcher with a '10' sinker and '10' fastball would get crushed by opposite-handed hitters.

Skipaway · 09-03-2009, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by ms2002

One issue with OOTP is that a pitcher with this repertoire would get POUNDED if they went more than 5 innings. There is a difference between a pitcher with a plus sinker and a plus curveball.

A pitcher with a '10' curveball and a '10' fastball would likely succeed in a starting role (see Erik Bedard), but a pitcher with a '10' sinker and '10' fastball would get crushed by opposite-handed hitters.

Brandon Webb pitching sinker 80% of the time was a bad idea then.

ms2002 · 09-04-2009, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Skipaway

Brandon Webb pitching sinker 80% of the time was a bad idea then.

True, Webb's best pitch is the sinker, but he gets left-handed hitters out by mixing in effective off-speed pitches (change and curve).

Markus Heinsohn · 09-04-2009, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by ms2002

One issue with OOTP is that a pitcher with this repertoire would get POUNDED if they went more than 5 innings. There is a difference between a pitcher with a plus sinker and a plus curveball.

A pitcher with a '10' curveball and a '10' fastball would likely succeed in a starting role (see Erik Bedard), but a pitcher with a '10' sinker and '10' fastball would get crushed by opposite-handed hitters.

I guess this was an imported league. OOTP 10 does not create pitchers with a repertoire solely with a fastball and sinker.

09-03-2009, 07:33 AM	#1 (permalink)
Imran Bat Boy Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Northbrook, IL (Suburb next to Chicago) Posts: 4	High Stamina, But only two pitches Player Report for #1 David 'Bye Bye' Edwards He has only two pitches but they're both 10s. He is really in a class on his own with his ratings. He also has 7 stamina. He was awfully good as the closer of my team last season, (I only began managing late into the season). I am curious if you feel that he could be a dominant starter. His ratings as a closer are even more ridiculous than what he currently has. I let him start for the last 4 games of this season and he did pretty well. 8 IP, 4 H, 2 ER, 1 BB, 8 Ks 7 IP, 5 H, 1 ER, 0 BB, 10 Ks 8 IP, 4 H, 2 ER, 1 BB, 9 Ks 7.1 IP, 6 H, 4 ER, 1 BB, 6 Ks Seems like he could be a pretty good starter with only two pitches in this small sample size. What do you think?

09-03-2009, 12:36 PM	#4 (permalink)
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09-03-2009, 08:53 AM	#2 (permalink)
Raffke Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jul 2009 Posts: 40 Thanked 14x in 6 posts	I had a guy very similar to this once who I converted to a starter - 2 dominant pitches, high stamina. He was great the majority of the time and was a real anchor for the rotation. I think a guy with 2 awesome pitches has surely got to be better than a guy with 3 average pitches. The only problem with my guy (I can't remember his name) was that he got injured pretty regularly .... but so did everyone else on the team.

09-03-2009, 09:38 AM	#3 (permalink)
jasonn29tn14 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jul 2007 Posts: 290 Thanked 15x in 9 posts	Depending on his age he might actually develope a third pitch as well.

09-03-2009, 06:02 PM	#5 (permalink)
Imran Bat Boy Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: Northbrook, IL (Suburb next to Chicago) Posts: 4	Fastball and Sinker, not to mention 67 percent ground ball percentage in a league where there a ton of small ball parks.