Depth Charts RHP/LHP

[esovia23]

If a backup is set at "every xth game" vs. RHP or LHP, does the program substitute for every xth total team game or every xth game vs. RHP or LHP?

[Hasta la vista pelota]

I've wondered this too.

And why are the left-handed lineups on the right side and the right-handed lineups on the left?

[Tony M]

I hadn't thought about that but I think it's every n games in total. Starting for example every 20th game against LHPs wouldn't result in many starts in a season.

And the vRHP are to the left of vLHP because that's the way we read and Right Handers are more frequent than southpaws.

[esovia23]

Originally Posted by Tony M

I hadn't thought about that but I think it's every n games in total. Starting for example every 20th game against LHPs wouldn't result in many starts in a season.

And the vRHP are to the left of vLHP because that's the way we read and Right Handers are more frequent than southpaws.

So lets say you have a player starting at 3B vs. rhp with a backup at "every 7th game" and the same 3b starting at 3B vs. lhp with a backup at "every 10th game".

What happens then? Is it every 7th and 10th game then?

[SteveP]

Originally Posted by esovia23

So lets say you have a player starting at 3B vs. rhp with a backup at "every 7th game" and the same 3b starting at 3B vs. lhp with a backup at "every 10th game".

What happens then? Is it every 7th and 10th game then?

I'll throw my into this pot. I think that the answer to your question is yes, but:

1. It's the 7th game, but only if the pitcher is an rhp in that game, otherwise it will be the next time you face an rhp.

2. It's the 10th game, but only if the pitcher is an lhp in that game, otherwise it will be the next time you face an lhp.

Also, depending upon when you set this up, the game may not wait for seven or ten games to make the first substitution -- though exactly how this works is a mystery to me.

That's my best guess.

[esovia23]

Originally Posted by SteveP

I'll throw my into this pot. I think that the answer to your question is yes, but:

1. It's the 7th game, but only if the pitcher is an rhp in that game, otherwise it will be the next time you face an rhp.

2. It's the 10th game, but only if the pitcher is an lhp in that game, otherwise it will be the next time you face an lhp.

Also, depending upon when you set this up, the game may not wait for seven or ten games to make the first substitution -- though exactly how this works is a mystery to me.

That's my best guess.

So if you have them set the same, ie both of them set at "every xth game" for each player, it should just sub them every xth game then.

In other words, I dont want a player resting every 7th and then 10th game. I just want the guy to sit every 7th game.

[SteveP]

Originally Posted by esovia23

So if you have them set the same, ie both of them set at "every nth game" for each player, it should just sub them every xth game then.

In other words, I dont want a player resting every 7th and then 10th game. I just want the guy to sit every 7th game.

If I am right, then I think you are right. However, it may help to note that I don't think the AI uses platooning to rest guys. The platooning is to spread the PAs around where the AI thinks it has two guys at a position, who are roughly equal in capability. To get them both some stats. I tend to think that's a good way for a human manager to use platooning as well, since with the other option the AI will take a player out of the game when he is anything less than 100% rested. So, no player should ever get very fatigued unless there is a problem with the active roster composition.

[esovia23]

Ok, just to wrap this up. I think I figured out how it handles it.

The game seems to handle depth charts like this:

1)The program checks the handedness of the pitcher starting for the opponent.

2)If a LHP starts, the program locates the "start every nth game" number for each player under the LHP depth charts. Likewise if a RHP starts.

3)The program finds how many consecutive games each player has played. If hes started in consecutive games for one less the number or greater, then the software substitutes for him

So, for example, if LHP Tim Hudson starts against the Cardinals, and the Cards LHP depth chart for Albert Pujols is set at every 10th game, and Pujols has started 9 games or more in a row, the program will substitute for Pujols. If instead it's RHP Jair Jurrjens and the depth chart vs. RHP is set at every 4th game for Pujols, then it will substitute for Pujols if he has started in 3 or more games in a row.

Simple as that. It just checks the handness of the pitcher and then finds the corresponding depth chart and subs based on the number there.

[jasonn29tn14]

I tend to use this alot in my minor leagues - especially if I happen to have 2 or 3 guys I want to get ABs. If I have say 3 guys for two spots in the OF who are roughly equal and 2 of them are right handed I'll start the left handed against RHP and set the other two to rotate every other day there. As best I can tell it works properly in that way from my experience.

[Purple Cowboy]

Sorry to bump this old thread, but I have a related question:

Do the amount of games being counted reset if you change the sub duration? For example, I have my backup first baseman set to play every 7 games. If four games go by and I then change that sub setting to every 5 games, does it start counting from one again or will the player get in there for the next game?

[knockahoma]

That's an interesting question.

It wouldn't take much to create a "test league". Start a season off with

Jones starting at 1b and Fosse filling in every 7 games. Sim 3 games and then change Fosse to every 5 games. That should tell ya. If Fosse appears in game 5...

[SteveP]

Originally Posted by Purple Cowboy

Sorry to bump this old thread, but I have a related question:

Do the amount of games being counted reset if you change the sub duration? For example, I have my backup first baseman set to play every 7 games. If four games go by and I then change that sub setting to every 5 games, does it start counting from one again or will the player get in there for the next game?

I'm pretty sure the count does not reset. For example, it's not unusual for the following to happen: you make a change to your substitution settings, and the substitution actually occurs in the next game you play. Sometime similar happens with spot starters, if you set someone to sub for the last guy in your rotation -- the sub may start the next time that spot in the rotation comes up.

[Purple Cowboy]

Thank you!