Miguel Sano

[pseudofool]

Now that Miguel Sano has signed with a team (the Twins), I want to add him to my roster set.

Anyone have any ideas what his potential ratings should be?

[mgom27]

Eric Wedge has been fired.

[bababui]

Originally Posted by pseudofool

Now that Miguel Sano has signed with a team (the Twins), I want to add him to my roster set.

Anyone have any ideas what his potential ratings should be?

IMO a 20/65..

Originally Posted by mgom27

Eric Wedge has been fired.

Did you even read the OP?

[damientheomen3]

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[bababui]

Originally Posted by damientheomen3

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[Tony M]

Originally Posted by mgom27

Eric Wedge has been fired.

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[BMW]

Somewhere between Joaquin Arias and Alex Rodriguez. I mean, he's (possibly) 16 years old, he may be lucky to have a career as successful as Arias, who made it to the majors.

But, if I had to give him some reasonable ratings:

Miguel Sano
Born: 5-11-1993 (deemed unverified by MLB)
Ht/Wt: 6'3" / 210
Bats/Throws: R / R

Offensive Ratings (1-250)

BAB: 6 / 6 / 145
AvK: 1 / 1 /  80
Gap: 5 / 5 / 123
Pow: 7 / 7 / 135
Eye: 3 / 3 / 110
HBP: 5

Other Offensive Ratings (1-250)

Typ: Spray
Run: 110
Stl: 67
Bsr: 60
Sac: 40
BHt: 40

Defensive Ratings (1-250)

InR: 90
InE: 120
InA: 170
TDP: 60
CAb: 1
CAr: 10
OfR: 85
OfE: 100
OfA: 150

Experience (200 = Max)

Pi:   0
Ca:   0
1B:   0
2B:   0
3B:  20
SS: 170
LF:   0
CF:   0
RF:   0

[Sabermetric Baseball]

Based on the scouting reports I've read, here's about where his ratings should be on a 1-10 scale....

Contact: 2 Current, 5-6 Potential
Gap: 3 Current, 6-8 Potential
Power: 3 Current, 8 Potential
Eye: 2 Current, 4-5 Potential
Avoid K: 1-2 Current, 4-5 Potential

3rd Base Position Rating: 6
Shortstop Position Rating: 4

[Sabermetric Baseball]

Originally Posted by BMW

Born: 1-1-1993 (deemed unverified by MLB)

I believe his birthday is May 11th

[BMW]

Originally Posted by Sabermetric Baseball

I believe his birthday is May 11th

Thanks, I edited it. It's still unverified by the MLB though. It's great to have "a body that I've never seen on a 16-year-old", until they find out he's 18.

Mind you, while your projections on a 1-10 scale look good, pretty much in line with what I had, there's no way I'd rate 16 year old who's never swung a bat in a live pro game higher than 1-1-1-1-1. A-Rod struggled when he was 18, which is two years older than Sano, and this is after A-Rod hit .312 with 21 HR at A-AA-AAA.

Part of what you're buying into here is that you have zippo to know what you're going to have with a 16 year old in a few years. He needs to earn his ratings in OOTP, because the talent changes that he could get in-game are akin to washing out in real-life. So for a 16-year-old, he should have the longest climb to the potential ratings, because his eventual ratings should be subject to more uncertainty than a prospect at 21 or 22 year old.

Also, the scouting reports don't mention that he plays 3B, just that he will likely have to move to 3B as he fills out. So he'd probably have a 1 or a negligible rating at 3B until he logged experience at the position in the minors.

[Sabermetric Baseball]

Originally Posted by BMW

Also, the scouting reports don't mention that he plays 3B, just that he will likely have to move to 3B as he fills out. So he'd probably have a 1 or a negligible rating at 3B until he logged experience at the position in the minors.

Yeah, that's always the dilemma for me.....

Sano will have to move to 3B. The only way to rate him and preserve that fact is by having his 3B rating higher than his SS rating.

However, SS is the only position he's played so far. It doesn't really make sense for him to have a better rating at a position he's never played.

There's almost the need for current and potential position ratings, so that his SS current rating would be higher than 3B .... but his potential 3B rating would be better than SS.

[BMW]

Originally Posted by Sabermetric Baseball

Yeah, that's always the dilemma for me.....

Sano will have to move to 3B. The only way to rate him and preserve that fact is by having his 3B rating higher than his SS rating.

However, SS is the only position he's played so far. It doesn't really make sense for him to have a better rating at a position he's never played.

There's almost the need for current and potential position ratings, so that his SS current rating would be higher than 3B .... but his potential 3B rating would be better than SS.

What I did was give him infield ratings that would make him a good 3B, but give him 20 experience. So he appears rated as a 1-in game. The more you play him there, the more you'll see him flesh out as a 3B.

He has 170 experience at SS, and he has a 3 rating there right now. But even when he reaches the max experience, he'll still be a 3. Which you probably won't want as a MLB shortstop.

With his raw ratings, you could also turn him into a good 1B, or a decent LF or RF. He'd never be a C, CF and his success down the road at 2B/SS would be pretty low.

[BMD]

The Pirates scouts were projecting him as a RF as he appearently has an incredible throwing arm and he has a big frame and might still be growing. Had they signed him, he most likely would not have stayed at SS for long. Not sure about the Twins plans though.