Lopsided Trades you have had that wouldn't happen in real life

mgom27 · 10-15-2009, 11:54 PM

Jeff Dugan 3B of the Cardinals 09 League was Traded for Miguel Montero Diamondbacks MLB League World Baseball Beta League. Dugan was put on there 25 Man Roster.

bosunmate · 10-16-2009, 12:51 AM

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Originally Posted by mgom27

Jeff Dugan 3B of the Cardinals 09 League was Traded for Miguel Montero Diamondbacks MLB League World Baseball Beta League. Dugan was put on there 25 Man Roster.

Lopsided trades go on all the time in every sport....

edddgar · 10-16-2009, 12:56 AM

Individual trades like that aren't worth discussing. Lopsided trades happen all the time. If you set difficulty to "Hard" with "Favor Prospects" you'll get very realistic trades. Dump the name value and look at tangible value of the player and also keep in mind that when scouting is on, the value is the perceived value of the involved teams.

spleen1015 · 10-16-2009, 07:38 AM

OOTP doesn't know names, only ratings/stats.

mgom27 · 10-16-2009, 01:34 PM

I have it at Very Easy and High and that's the way I like it because I like to see Lots Trades happen between Leagues.

Cras · 10-16-2009, 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by spleen1015

OOTP doesn't know names, only ratings/stats.

And salary.

In 1930, I was offered an absolute beast of a hitter, he had 10 for contact and gap, and 4 for power, (which is a lot in those days) and all they wanted in return was a 30 something pitcher that was never able to break into the my starting rotation (although when I first signed him I had high hopes for him). The team was in budget problems and it was clear that they offered him to me because I was the only team with the budget to take on his huge salary. He was at the time the second highest paid guy in the league.

Pronkytonk · 10-19-2009, 03:56 AM

I once got offered Ty Cobb as a rookie in the 1905 season for 35-yo utility IF Billy Clingman (who was retired for 2 years in 1905 in RL). Cobb was hitting .185 or something through mid-May, but this may have been the worst case of misjudgment of player potential I've seen so far (I didn't accept the offer because I felt I would have been exploiting the AI too much)

Tullius · 10-19-2009, 05:21 AM

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Cobb was hitting .185 or something through mid-May, but this may have been the worst case of misjudgment of player potential I've seen so far

What do you think about a Cubs scout who said that Joe DiMaggio can "only hit singles" and is no big league player ?

From Wikipedia

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In 1934, his career almost ended. Going to his sister's house for dinner, he tore the ligaments in his left knee while stepping out of a jitney. The Seals, hoping to sell DiMaggio's contract for $100,000 now couldn't give him away; the Chicago Cubs turned down a no-risk tryout. Scout Bill Essick pestered the New York Yankees to give the 19 year-old another look. After DiMaggio passed a test on his knee, he was bought on November 21 for $25,000 and 5 players, with the Seals keeping him for the 1935 season. He batted .398 with 154 RBIs and 34 HRs, led the Seals to the 1935 PCL title, and was named the League's Most Valuable Player.

Misjudgement of potential is fairly common in the whole bussiness world.

Malleus Dei · 10-19-2009, 10:48 AM

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Misjudgement of potential is fairly common in the whole world.

Fixed that for you.

Tullius · 10-19-2009, 12:25 PM

jimbobfurley · 10-19-2009, 05:40 PM

I think my favourite was Lou Brock straight up for Montreal rookie reliever / punching bag John Strohmayer, during the 1970 season ...

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Originally Posted by mgom27

Jeff Dugan 3B of the Cardinals 09 League was Traded for Miguel Montero Diamondbacks MLB League World Baseball Beta League. Dugan was put on there 25 Man Roster.

Killing Time · 10-20-2009, 12:15 AM

I once traded Ivan DeJesus for Larry Bowa and Ryne Sandberg - no, wait, that really happened.

AshBats48 · 10-21-2009, 06:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Pronkytonk

I once got offered Ty Cobb as a rookie in the 1905 season for 35-yo utility IF Billy Clingman (who was retired for 2 years in 1905 in RL). Cobb was hitting .185 or something through mid-May, but this may have been the worst case of misjudgment of player potential I've seen so far (I didn't accept the offer because I felt I would have been exploiting the AI too much)

You posting in this thread is hilarious! Pronkytonk.... your name represent one of the worst deals ever made in Indians history! The reason we (also an Indians fan) traded away TWO pervious cy young winners. The 3 hole hitter for the red sox and others who seem to pop up in this post season. So change your name and it’s just funny your commenting on bad deals.

I’m sure you’re a nice person, but I have a lot of resentment for Travis Hafner.

conception · 10-21-2009, 07:01 PM

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Originally Posted by jimbobfurley

I think my favourite was Lou Brock straight up for Montreal rookie reliever / punching bag John Strohmayer, during the 1970 season ...

I thought it was pretty funny when Brock was traded for Broglio, who went on to do pretty much nothing after the trade.

Killing Time · 10-21-2009, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by AshBats48

You posting in this thread is hilarious! Pronkytonk.... your name represent one of the worst deals ever made in Indians history!

Maybe a bad deal, but a great scoreboard video!

PhillieFever · 10-22-2009, 09:46 AM

In my 1985 historical league, the Toronto Blue Jays have just traded 25 year old LF George Bell and 23 year old 3B Kelly Gruber to the Royals for 28 year old pitcher Mike LaCoss. Recac is on,BTW

Hotwheelz · 10-22-2009, 01:08 PM

It's not a trade but I did not feel like starting a new thread.

Before the 2009 season in my Mariners franchise I let Mike Carp leave through the Rule 5 draft. The Tigers took a chance on him and that season he hit .270 with 15 HR's and 83 RBI for a .417 slugging percentage. This is what I thought I would get out of him if I stuck him at DH, which I felt would be the only position I couldn't hurt us defensively.

In 2011 the Tigers dealt Carp to the Rays and in 2012 he hit .288/25/92 and the next season he hit .316/31/119. Now Mike Carp is one of the best 1B and really not that bad defensively.

This has to be one of the biggest oversights I have made so far in OOTP. I let this guy go because I figured I had 5-6 guys who could put up the same production. Now look what happens.

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mgom27 All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 1,633 Thanked 108x in 71 posts	I have it at Very Easy and High and that's the way I like it because I like to see Lots Trades happen between Leagues. __________________ Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr!!!!

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10-16-2009, 12:56 AM	#3 (permalink)
edddgar Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 253 Thanked 4x in 2 posts	Individual trades like that aren't worth discussing. Lopsided trades happen all the time. If you set difficulty to "Hard" with "Favor Prospects" you'll get very realistic trades. Dump the name value and look at tangible value of the player and also keep in mind that when scouting is on, the value is the perceived value of the involved teams.

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spleen1015 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Indianapolis, Indiana Posts: 5,020 Thanked 85x in 50 posts	OOTP doesn't know names, only ratings/stats.

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Pronkytonk Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Germany Posts: 78 Thanked 8x in 3 posts	I once got offered Ty Cobb as a rookie in the 1905 season for 35-yo utility IF Billy Clingman (who was retired for 2 years in 1905 in RL). Cobb was hitting .185 or something through mid-May, but this may have been the worst case of misjudgment of player potential I've seen so far (I didn't accept the offer because I felt I would have been exploiting the AI too much)

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PhillieFever Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: South Philly Posts: 5,848 Thanked 289x in 252 posts	In my 1985 historical league, the Toronto Blue Jays have just traded 25 year old LF George Bell and 23 year old 3B Kelly Gruber to the Royals for 28 year old pitcher Mike LaCoss. Recac is on,BTW

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Hotwheelz All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Port Angeles, WA Posts: 1,419 Thanked 21x in 9 posts	It's not a trade but I did not feel like starting a new thread. Before the 2009 season in my Mariners franchise I let Mike Carp leave through the Rule 5 draft. The Tigers took a chance on him and that season he hit .270 with 15 HR's and 83 RBI for a .417 slugging percentage. This is what I thought I would get out of him if I stuck him at DH, which I felt would be the only position I couldn't hurt us defensively. In 2011 the Tigers dealt Carp to the Rays and in 2012 he hit .288/25/92 and the next season he hit .316/31/119. Now Mike Carp is one of the best 1B and really not that bad defensively. This has to be one of the biggest oversights I have made so far in OOTP. I let this guy go because I figured I had 5-6 guys who could put up the same production. Now look what happens.