Strategy settings after patch question

JoeRockHead · 10-19-2009, 09:08 PM

The option for letting your coach/bench coach automatically select your strategy seems to be gone. The only option I see is manual now. Was this auto option removed on purpose?

jbergey22 · 10-19-2009, 09:21 PM

Its there I believe unless you are talking about something different. Strategy then action at the bottom.

Alan T · 10-19-2009, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by JoeRockHead

The option for letting your coach/bench coach automatically select your strategy seems to be gone. The only option I see is manual now. Was this auto option removed on purpose?

I don't see it there either. Only see Reset Strategy under the "Action" button.

I logged this as BZ3610

JoeRockHead · 10-19-2009, 09:29 PM

Yes, when you select Action now your only choice is to reset Strategy. Thats it, no other options anymore. I for one liked the auto option. I adjusted it as I wished after. I don't want to manually enter all strategy.

jbergey22 · 10-19-2009, 09:30 PM

Strange its there for me. Let me double check to make sure the patch was installed.

EDIT: Yes I am on version 10.4.29 and that option is there. I started a new fictional league when the latest patch came out.

Stu · 10-19-2009, 09:37 PM

It's there for me as well. I am able to ask the Manager, Bench Coach and Reset Strategy.

JoeRockHead · 10-20-2009, 12:19 AM

well i'm patched and its not there. Do you have to have coaches on now? I used to able to use it with coaches off.

bosunmate · 10-20-2009, 12:34 AM

I'm patched up and its there for me also, i play solo and use the computer manager and coach to set lines. Using 10.4.29...

endgame · 10-20-2009, 12:38 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeRockHead

Yes, when you select Action now your only choice is to reset Strategy. Thats it, no other options anymore. I for one liked the auto option. I adjusted it as I wished after. I don't want to manually enter all strategy.

This is either a vague memory, flashback, or a flat-out hallucination, but I seem to recall this coming up quite awhile back and what I "think" I recall is even with coaches off you want to have that position 'filled'. So I guess what I'm asking is if you have coaches off, turn them on, then check to see if there IS a bench coach, etc... if there are any voids, fill 'em in and turn the option back off again. I know it sounds a little silly, but this issue was something on that order. Let me know. Tx, Rock.

ryanivr · 10-20-2009, 12:42 AM

Coaches have to be on to see that option.

ryanivr · 10-20-2009, 12:43 AM

For the record, I wish you could use that option whether you had a coach, no coach, coaches on, coaches off, whatever.

endgame · 10-20-2009, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by ryanivr

Coaches have to be on to see that option.

I can verify, in the version I'm working with right now, this is true.

SteveP · 10-20-2009, 01:38 AM

If you have coaches turned off, who do you think you are asking for strategy? And if you could identify said apparition, what would they base their recommendations on? The only reason that manager and bench coaches can set strategy is because they have strategy preferences. That is what you are asking when you do that: to have the team strategy sliders match the strategy preferences of either the manager or the bench coach. Otherwise the game engine sets the sliders at the middle point in all cases (unless they were somewhere else when you turned coaches off, in which case they won't change). Without someone with strategy preferences to ask, there isn't anyone to set your team strategies but you.

Alan T · 10-20-2009, 01:51 AM

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Originally Posted by SteveP

If you have coaches turned off, who do you think you are asking for strategy? And if you could identify said apparition, what would they base their recommendations on? The only reason that manager and bench coaches can set strategy is because they have strategy preferences. That is what you are asking when you do that: to have the team strategy sliders match the strategy preferences of either the manager or the bench coach. Otherwise the game engine sets the sliders at the middle point in all cases (unless they were somewhere else when you turned coaches off, in which case they won't change). Without someone with strategy preferences to ask, there isn't anyone to set your team strategies but you.

This may very well be the case now, but if so it is a change in behavior from before.

I can take the same league file from before to now and in the old patch you had the ability with coaches turned off to ask the AI for strategy. In the new patch with the same league file you no longer do.

Everything else is still there to ask the AI (setting lineups, rotations, etc. Only strategy is missing).

bababui · 10-20-2009, 02:11 AM

Who is this AlanT???

Markus Heinsohn · 10-20-2009, 05:20 AM

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Originally Posted by JoeRockHead

The option for letting your coach/bench coach automatically select your strategy seems to be gone. The only option I see is manual now. Was this auto option removed on purpose?

It is only gone when coaches are disabled, which is the way it should be. All the function does is copy the coaches preferences...

So, the removal is essentially a bug-fix.

Bluenoser · 10-20-2009, 05:37 AM

Interesting...running the latest patch and still have the option despite having scouts/coaches disabled.

Malleus Dei · 10-20-2009, 10:43 AM

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Originally Posted by BruceM

Interesting...running the latest patch and still have the option despite having scouts/coaches disabled.

You might want to check that again carefully. I'm running the latest patch and definitely do *not* have the option with scouts/coaches disabled.

Malleus Dei · 10-20-2009, 10:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

It is only gone when coaches are disabled, which is the way it should be.

So, when coaches are disabled, do all non-player-controlled-teams have default vanilla strategies that cannot be changed? Or will the AI change them?

JoeRockHead · 10-20-2009, 11:24 AM

I liked the option of the AI being a proxy coach so to speak. I enjoyed using the AI to fill everything out and I would review and alter as I saw fit. Doing each and every situation can be a bit tedious. So pre patch AI option or bug on, now off. Oh well thats progress. Still love the game though. It appears my strategy may be a bit vanilla when I don't play out games.

10-19-2009, 09:08 PM	#1 (permalink)
JoeRockHead Major Leagues Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: NorthCarolina Posts: 330 Thanked 5x in 5 posts	Strategy settings after patch question The option for letting your coach/bench coach automatically select your strategy seems to be gone. The only option I see is manual now. Was this auto option removed on purpose? __________________ Regards:John Nellis

10-19-2009, 09:29 PM	#4 (permalink)
JoeRockHead Major Leagues Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: NorthCarolina Posts: 330 Thanked 5x in 5 posts	Yes, when you select Action now your only choice is to reset Strategy. Thats it, no other options anymore. I for one liked the auto option. I adjusted it as I wished after. I don't want to manually enter all strategy. __________________ Regards:John Nellis

10-19-2009, 09:30 PM	#5 (permalink)
jbergey22 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,032 Thanked 126x in 95 posts	Strange its there for me. Let me double check to make sure the patch was installed. EDIT: Yes I am on version 10.4.29 and that option is there. I started a new fictional league when the latest patch came out. Last edited by jbergey22; 10-19-2009 at 09:34 PM.

10-19-2009, 09:37 PM	#6 (permalink)
Stu All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2005 Posts: 1,249 Thanked 16x in 8 posts	It's there for me as well. I am able to ask the Manager, Bench Coach and Reset Strategy. __________________ Brewers League Baseball

10-20-2009, 12:19 AM	#7 (permalink)
JoeRockHead Major Leagues Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: NorthCarolina Posts: 330 Thanked 5x in 5 posts	well i'm patched and its not there. Do you have to have coaches on now? I used to able to use it with coaches off. __________________ Regards:John Nellis Last edited by JoeRockHead; 10-20-2009 at 12:21 AM.

10-19-2009, 09:21 PM	#2 (permalink)
jbergey22 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,032 Thanked 126x in 95 posts	Its there I believe unless you are talking about something different. Strategy then action at the bottom.

10-20-2009, 12:34 AM	#8 (permalink)
bosunmate All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 1,133 Thanked 56x in 28 posts	I'm patched up and its there for me also, i play solo and use the computer manager and coach to set lines. Using 10.4.29...

10-20-2009, 12:42 AM	#10 (permalink)
ryanivr All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 704 Thanked 36x in 26 posts	Coaches have to be on to see that option.

10-20-2009, 12:43 AM	#11 (permalink)
ryanivr All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2006 Posts: 704 Thanked 36x in 26 posts	For the record, I wish you could use that option whether you had a coach, no coach, coaches on, coaches off, whatever.

10-20-2009, 01:38 AM	#13 (permalink)
SteveP Moderator Join Date: Aug 2008 Posts: 2,768 Thanked 260x in 197 posts	If you have coaches turned off, who do you think you are asking for strategy? And if you could identify said apparition, what would they base their recommendations on? The only reason that manager and bench coaches can set strategy is because they have strategy preferences. That is what you are asking when you do that: to have the team strategy sliders match the strategy preferences of either the manager or the bench coach. Otherwise the game engine sets the sliders at the middle point in all cases (unless they were somewhere else when you turned coaches off, in which case they won't change). Without someone with strategy preferences to ask, there isn't anyone to set your team strategies but you.

10-20-2009, 02:11 AM	#15 (permalink)
bababui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 14,069 Thanked 145x in 107 posts Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Who is this AlanT???

10-20-2009, 05:37 AM	#17 (permalink)
Bluenoser Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Canada Posts: 5,264 Thanked 372x in 244 posts	Interesting...running the latest patch and still have the option despite having scouts/coaches disabled. __________________ It takes neither courage nor intelligence to cheer for a team only when that team wins. The true test of a fan's mettle is the same as it is for a player: Were you there when you were needed?

10-20-2009, 11:24 AM	#20 (permalink)
JoeRockHead Major Leagues Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: NorthCarolina Posts: 330 Thanked 5x in 5 posts	I liked the option of the AI being a proxy coach so to speak. I enjoyed using the AI to fill everything out and I would review and alter as I saw fit. Doing each and every situation can be a bit tedious. So pre patch AI option or bug on, now off. Oh well thats progress. Still love the game though. It appears my strategy may be a bit vanilla when I don't play out games. __________________ Regards:John Nellis

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