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Old 12-07-2009, 07:50 AM   #1 (permalink)
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OOTP 10 Eaiser then OOTP 9???

Hi, in my 4th day of the switch from 9 to 10.

I foind 10 even eaiser than 9. The rule 5 draft is awful, way, way too many great player available, number one starters, cleanup hitters, this can't be that hard to code for.

Example: Oakland left a 23yr old starter off its 40 man roster. He was 17-2 at AAA and had an era of 1.74, 4 solid pitchers and great stamina.
Instead, they protected 5 34+ yearolds at AA and AAA who were washed up, and either poor middle relivers or backups in the minors/

There are many example of this.

I know you can just not take them, but it would be better if teams protected them.
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Old 12-07-2009, 11:11 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Ok, that pitcher is now in his second season on my team

1st season 17-5 era 2.77
2nd season 13-1 2.25 era so far

I also got 2 30+ homer guys and a .340+ hitter in the rule five, before I started skipping it,
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Old 12-07-2009, 11:57 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Ok, that pitcher is now in his second season on my team

1st season 17-5 era 2.77
2nd season 13-1 2.25 era so far

I also got 2 30+ homer guys and a .340+ hitter in the rule five, before I started skipping it,
Yes, the rule 5 draft logic is terrible. Just don't draft from there or if you do, draft realistically.
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Old 12-07-2009, 12:27 PM   #4 (permalink)
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With respect check your league set up and or finances. I never see anything but dregs and retreads in the Rule 5.
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Yeah, thanks for the feedback, it is so tempting to go for a quick fix, but I am now not taking a single player in the rule five draft.

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I am palying with standard settings, trades hars, finances normal. Most of these players are on minor league contracts so I am unsure how finances will affect it?

Just had another R5 draft and it had a lot of stars in it, I am adding them to my player tracker, and a lot of them are performing well.

If anyone knows of a setting to fix this, please tell me.

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I don't have a lot of experience with the rule V draft so I'm not offering help but I am curious...

Is this a league that has been converted from OOTP 9 or one started in X? If converted I wonder if that could be part of it. I'm sure other players who have converted could offer some insight there.
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I never see anything but dregs and retreads in the Rule 5.
Same here. In the couple hundred seasons I've simmed between versions 8 and 10 the Rule 5 is filled with the crap year after year.
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Old 12-07-2009, 06:43 PM   #8 (permalink)
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I actually turned the Rule 5 off because I didn't even want to bother with its crap.
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the only good players in my rule 5 are the minor players in my system that I can't protect.
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Old 12-07-2009, 07:51 PM   #10 (permalink)
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I don't have a lot of experience with the rule V draft so I'm not offering help but I am curious...

Is this a league that has been converted from OOTP 9 or one started in X? If converted I wonder if that could be part of it. I'm sure other players who have converted could offer some insight there.
I've converted and continued my dynasty from v4 all the way t0 vX. From the time rule 5 came into the game I've never seen the issue. Always crap players.

Wasn't sure when I made my post so went to check my league before posting, but I have never drafted any player in the rule 5 draft. Not because of house rule but because there was never anything there worth my while.

I do like using rule 5 though because on occasion I will see a player that was drafted away from my team make it in the majors. Never given up a star but one or two guys that were useful utility types and one SP that I didn't protect because of injury that I didn't think he could come back from. I was wrong and he has performed a decent job as Baltimore's #5, which means on my Cubs he probably would have been long relief.

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I've never seen this. It looks like a localized/roster/settings issue to me.
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Old 12-08-2009, 06:02 AM   #12 (permalink)
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Thanks for the feedback

Hi,

Thanks, still need help.

Fresh install, added padresfan mod. so no upgrade.

Most of these great players are stars at AAA who never got a chance.
I had to turn off R5 because teams were dradting 10 of them, it was knid of silly.

I checked in editor and these are legit stars 0n 1-20 scale witrh contach and power over 13-14 for a few of them.

Don't understand why the AI dosen't play them?
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Fresh install, added padresfan mod. so no upgrade.
What does that ^ mean?
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Do a fresh install. Add NO mods. Import nothing. Create a league.

See if you still have the problem (hint: you won't).
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Do a fresh install. Add NO mods. Import nothing. Create a league.

See if you still have the problem (hint: you won't).
Good advice, listen to MD.
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Old 12-10-2009, 06:27 AM   #17 (permalink)
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Tried the fresh Install

Thanks for the help,

I tried the fresh install, no mods.

Same problem, in R5 after season two there were 15 players avail from the top 100 prospects list and two in the top 10.

Example Neftail Feliz SP Oak, superstar, top 5 SP in hte game, unprotected. I tried two fresh installs, 2 different teams, and even letting the AI manag al teams while I did nothing and there he was, in R5.

I don't get it?
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I don't get it either, to be honest. My experience with Rule 5 is completely in line with what others have reported here: only second-rate minor-leaguers are in the pool, or the occasional prospect who wasn't protected for one reason or another -- sometimes by me, of course . . . .
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I've noticed (anecdotally) that the AI seems to have a positional allotment for the 40 man roster. So instead of protecting that stud SP in AAA, they'll protect the 30 year old half star C in A ball to have 3 Cs on the 40 man. Or such is my recollection.
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I don't get it either, to be honest. My experience with Rule 5 is completely in line with what others have reported here: only second-rate minor-leaguers are in the pool, or the occasional prospect who wasn't protected for one reason or another -- sometimes by me, of course . . . .
This is my experience also.
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