"Cannot Be Fired" Option, Your Thoughts

boblight24 · 12-09-2009, 01:58 PM

I was curious to know what the community's thoughts on the "Cannot Be Fired" option in your dynasty. I've always checked this box so that I can focus on 1 team and then build them up and suffer through the slow years. I've been toying with the idea of starting an '09 dynasty and just starting from the minors and working my way up and wanted to know what others who've done that think about their experience. Let me know your thoughts, thanks!

Jaxxvain · 12-09-2009, 02:04 PM

I haven't tried much of the working through minors thing as it always leaves me feeling ripped off. It basically does not work.

As for the cannot be fired check box, I like to leave unchecked, until I get fired, then I get pissed that the owner did not realize that I have by far the best farm system, a low payroll, and am about to go on a 20 year dynasty run with multiple championships and many, many playoff appearances.

So, in summary, turn it on (so you cannot be fired). Especially if you are trying to work through the minors.

phenom · 12-09-2009, 02:20 PM

I usually leave it checked for 3-4 seasons after I take over a team, then uncheck it.

RchW · 12-09-2009, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by phenom

I usually leave it checked for 3-4 seasons after I take over a team, then uncheck it.

Consider it a contract situation. It's rare to be fired in your first two years IRL if you have a 4-5 year contract.

phenom · 12-09-2009, 02:33 PM

That and I hated getting burned with previous versions by taking over a 58-104 team, going 68-94 and getting fired for my season score of 12.

GIGO

RchW · 12-09-2009, 03:23 PM

True dat!

Daern · 12-09-2009, 05:40 PM

I've never turned it on, and I've also never been fired. I think I need to make the game harder? xD

But seriously, I dislike it--it feels disingenuous.

Antonin · 12-09-2009, 05:47 PM

I always play with 'cannot be fired' turned on. I would not even consider buying OOTP if it did not have this option.

The lack of such an option is the main reason I have not bought the last couple of editions of FM.

I play sports management games because I want to 'play the game my way' and manage my favorite team, experimenting and building the way I want, for as long as I want.

MMA_Dave · 12-09-2009, 06:01 PM

In addition to the above, you could also view yourself as a part owner/GM like Connie Mack. Or if your dynasty starts to stink, Al Davis.

"Play it your way!"

damientheomen3 · 12-09-2009, 08:47 PM

There is also an OOTP utility you can use to see when to fire yourself if you have this option checked here -- However, the winswap section doesn't work, but he's working on it

AirmenSmith · 12-09-2009, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by phenom

I usually leave it checked for 3-4 seasons after I take over a team, then uncheck it.

This^

Matter2003 · 12-11-2009, 08:26 AM

I never play with it on...basically I feel if I don't get the results then I should have to face the music just like IRL. Besides, there are so many crazy things that happen with managers getting fired these days that you could virtually never say that something happened that was unrealistic...

JackRules1 · 12-11-2009, 09:32 AM

I think by not checking the 'can not be fired' box it leaves me totally at the whim of the opening player draft. If I draft late I seem to be behind the 8 ball and will be fired after a poor season or two. If I decide to move myself up to an early draft spot, I might as well check the box.

I would prefer to work up from rookie ball as a manager but you get screwed at that level because the parent club never provides you with replacements for injured players and you end up the season with one starter, an exhausted pitching staff, and no chance to compete.

actionjackson · 12-13-2009, 02:33 PM

I use it 100% guilt free. It's my game, and I'll manage the teams I want to manage in the order that I want to manage them, thankyou.

bosunmate · 12-14-2009, 06:41 PM

I never use it, but agree it's necessary i remember building teams only to be fired. I play two ways first i play with it unchecked and take my chances. Right now i'm playing where i resign if i win the world series and start over with whatever jobs are left. So it depends on whether i want to go for a dynasty or rebuild bad teams. I liked Phenom's idea about checking it for the first few season's so you get a fair chance at building a winner....

pitch62 · 12-16-2009, 02:10 PM

Here's how I do it. I take the first number that comes up during Spider Solitaire and that is my contract length with that team. Let's say it's 5 for 5 years. If I make the playoffs, I get an extra year. For a championship I get two extra years. If after five years and I have not done either one, I resign and take over the worst won/loss team for that year and go through the cycle again. This way I have 5 years to build the club and if it doesn't work, I'm gone.

Spritze · 12-17-2009, 07:24 PM

I showed the boss the "Cannot be fired." check box when I was playing OOTP at work during a very busy time.

Turns out it really DOES work!

StyxNCa · 12-17-2009, 07:54 PM

I'd like to respond but I don't get paid to think.

12-09-2009, 01:58 PM	#1 (permalink)
boblight24 Major Leagues Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Beyond Is Where I Roam Posts: 487 Thanks: 33 Thanked 7x in 7 posts Infractions: 0/1 (1)	"Cannot Be Fired" Option, Your Thoughts I was curious to know what the community's thoughts on the "Cannot Be Fired" option in your dynasty. I've always checked this box so that I can focus on 1 team and then build them up and suffer through the slow years. I've been toying with the idea of starting an '09 dynasty and just starting from the minors and working my way up and wanted to know what others who've done that think about their experience. Let me know your thoughts, thanks! __________________ "No matter how good you are, you're going to lose one-third of your games. No matter how bad you are you're going to win one-third of your games. It's the other third that makes the difference." ~Tommy Lasorda "Good is not good enough, when better is expected." ~Vin Scully

12-09-2009, 05:40 PM	#7 (permalink)
Daern Minors (Double A) Join Date: Apr 2009 Posts: 148 Thanks: 1 Thanked 21x in 12 posts	I've never turned it on, and I've also never been fired. I think I need to make the game harder? xD But seriously, I dislike it--it feels disingenuous. __________________ UNDERGROUND BASEBALL LEAGUE: (Havana Rovers) 2009: 99-63 (Pennant Winners) 2010: 87-75 (Division Winners) 2011: 92-70 (Division Winners) 2012: 104-58 (Pennant Winners) 2013: 69-93 (4th Place) 2014: 108-54 (Pennant Winners) 2015: 115-47 (Pennant Winners) 2016: 95-67 (Pennant Winners) 2017: 94-68 (CHAMPIONS) 2018: 104-58 (Pennant Winners) 2019: 119-43 (Pennant Winners) 2020: 121-41 (CHAMPIONS) 2021: 86-76 (Wild Card) 2022: Who knows?

12-09-2009, 05:47 PM	#8 (permalink)
Antonin All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 1,381 Thanks: 165 Thanked 106x in 77 posts	I always play with 'cannot be fired' turned on. I would not even consider buying OOTP if it did not have this option. The lack of such an option is the main reason I have not bought the last couple of editions of FM. I play sports management games because I want to 'play the game my way' and manage my favorite team, experimenting and building the way I want, for as long as I want. __________________ RIP Bob "Rapid Robert" Feller [Nov 3, 1918-Dec 15, 2010] - career 3.25 ERA, 266 W, 162 L, 2,581 SO

12-11-2009, 08:26 AM	#12 (permalink)
Matter2003 All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Location: In the vicinity of Buffalo,NY Posts: 1,627 Thanks: 2 Thanked 9x in 8 posts	I never play with it on...basically I feel if I don't get the results then I should have to face the music just like IRL. Besides, there are so many crazy things that happen with managers getting fired these days that you could virtually never say that something happened that was unrealistic... __________________ Follow me on Twitter @ ILoveBarbecue Check out my All Things Barbecue Blog

12-16-2009, 02:10 PM	#16 (permalink)
pitch62 Minors (Single A) Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 94 Thanks: 0 Thanked 4x in 3 posts	Cannot be fired Here's how I do it. I take the first number that comes up during Spider Solitaire and that is my contract length with that team. Let's say it's 5 for 5 years. If I make the playoffs, I get an extra year. For a championship I get two extra years. If after five years and I have not done either one, I resign and take over the worst won/loss team for that year and go through the cycle again. This way I have 5 years to build the club and if it doesn't work, I'm gone.

12-09-2009, 02:04 PM	#2 (permalink)
Jaxxvain All Star Reserve Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 511 Thanks: 55 Thanked 51x in 38 posts	I haven't tried much of the working through minors thing as it always leaves me feeling ripped off. It basically does not work. As for the cannot be fired check box, I like to leave unchecked, until I get fired, then I get pissed that the owner did not realize that I have by far the best farm system, a low payroll, and am about to go on a 20 year dynasty run with multiple championships and many, many playoff appearances. So, in summary, turn it on (so you cannot be fired). Especially if you are trying to work through the minors.

12-09-2009, 02:20 PM	#3 (permalink)
phenom Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Near the Great Wall. On the GOOD side. Posts: 3,302 Thanks: 9 Thanked 110x in 57 posts	I usually leave it checked for 3-4 seasons after I take over a team, then uncheck it.

12-09-2009, 02:33 PM	#5 (permalink)
phenom Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Near the Great Wall. On the GOOD side. Posts: 3,302 Thanks: 9 Thanked 110x in 57 posts	That and I hated getting burned with previous versions by taking over a 58-104 team, going 68-94 and getting fired for my season score of 12. GIGO

12-09-2009, 06:01 PM	#9 (permalink)
MMA_Dave Minors (Single A) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 58 Thanks: 6 Thanked 2x in 2 posts	In addition to the above, you could also view yourself as a part owner/GM like Connie Mack. Or if your dynasty starts to stink, Al Davis. "Play it your way!"

12-11-2009, 09:32 AM	#13 (permalink)
JackRules1 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: New Durham, NH Posts: 190 Thanks: 56 Thanked 23x in 16 posts	I think by not checking the 'can not be fired' box it leaves me totally at the whim of the opening player draft. If I draft late I seem to be behind the 8 ball and will be fired after a poor season or two. If I decide to move myself up to an early draft spot, I might as well check the box. I would prefer to work up from rookie ball as a manager but you get screwed at that level because the parent club never provides you with replacements for injured players and you end up the season with one starter, an exhausted pitching staff, and no chance to compete.

12-13-2009, 02:33 PM	#14 (permalink)
actionjackson All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 1,142 Thanks: 774 Thanked 233x in 165 posts	I use it 100% guilt free. It's my game, and I'll manage the teams I want to manage in the order that I want to manage them, thankyou.

12-14-2009, 06:41 PM	#15 (permalink)
bosunmate All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 1,138 Thanks: 308 Thanked 56x in 28 posts	I never use it, but agree it's necessary i remember building teams only to be fired. I play two ways first i play with it unchecked and take my chances. Right now i'm playing where i resign if i win the world series and start over with whatever jobs are left. So it depends on whether i want to go for a dynasty or rebuild bad teams. I liked Phenom's idea about checking it for the first few season's so you get a fair chance at building a winner....

12-17-2009, 07:24 PM	#17 (permalink)
Spritze Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Redmond Wa and Cape Coast Ghana Posts: 2,946 Thanks: 16 Thanked 344x in 242 posts	I showed the boss the "Cannot be fired." check box when I was playing OOTP at work during a very busy time. Turns out it really DOES work!

12-17-2009, 07:54 PM	#18 (permalink)
StyxNCa Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Victoria, Texas Posts: 3,000 Thanks: 228 Thanked 177x in 105 posts	I'd like to respond but I don't get paid to think.

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