Computer drafting players by name instead of ratings

BaseballMan · 12-25-2009, 09:20 AM

The computer seems to be drafting players by alphabetical order instead of by abilities. Is there something i need to turn on or off. I wasnt using a budget.
If you can tell me how to post my draft i will if it will help.
I can telll you the first pick for 1871 was Francis Abercrombie who played
1 gm irl. Cap Anson wasnt picked till 5 after Doug Allison.
Im sure its probably something simple.

TribeFanInNC · 12-25-2009, 11:19 AM

Do you have the evaluation set to like 100% stats but there are no stats yet?

Like you said, sounds like a setting thing.

BaseballMan · 12-25-2009, 11:42 AM

I didnt mess with the AI options. Its set to what the game starts a league at.
I have scouts scouts and coaching off.

BaseballMan · 12-25-2009, 12:10 PM

Figured it out. I had checked the " use pre-defined draft value for AI.
I guess thats what you were referring too.

BaseballMan · 12-25-2009, 12:25 PM

It was going by names because i had removed the historical_database.odb
file from the stats folder. It keeps me from having the teams i want.
I guess it mirrors the real draft? I dont want the AI taking a player because
he was taken #5 irl but because the ai thinks he is the best player at that position or the best overall player.

Charlie Hough · 01-11-2010, 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by BaseballMan

It was going by names because i had removed the historical_database.odb
file from the stats folder. It keeps me from having the teams i want.
I guess it mirrors the real draft? I dont want the AI taking a player because
he was taken #5 irl but because the ai thinks he is the best player at that position or the best overall player.

I don't think that's what the feature does. I believe it allows the AI to draft according to the future statistical value of historical players. Since the feature can be used for inaugural drafts and not just rookie drafts, then I don't think it's based on real life draft position. In fact, I don't think the Lahman database includes that information anyway.

Spritze · 01-11-2010, 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlie Hough

Since the feature can be used for inaugural drafts and not just rookie drafts

The feature does not work for anything other than the rookie draft of rookies for their rookie season.

Using it for inaugural drafts in inadvisble and I wouldn't advise it either.

Charlie Hough · 01-11-2010, 08:28 PM

Well, it's supposed to work, but now that I've tested it, you're right. It makes some improvement for inaugural drafts, but only in terms of making many of the top picks well known. But it seems unable to determine whether these established veterans have any future value.

Spritze · 01-12-2010, 06:25 PM

That is because this number is NOT seasonal it is a career value only. It never changes, it is a single number per player in the master.csv file. It is ONLY intended to be used with rookie drafts. To be used for any other purpose there would need to be a seasonal version of this number that decreases until a players retirement. This seasonal value does not exist in any existancial frame of reference. Nope, it don't.

Charlie Hough · 01-12-2010, 06:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Spritze

That is because this number is NOT seasonal it is a career value only. It never changes, it is a single number per player in the master.csv file. It is ONLY intended to be used with rookie drafts. To be used for any other purpose there would need to be a seasonal version of this number that decreases until a players retirement. This seasonal value does not exist in any existancial frame of reference. Nope, it don't.

What field and table in the database contain this number?

This being said, OOTP needs to change its manual because it's misleading and unclear about how this feature works.

You bring up an interesting idea, though. By assigning a seasonal future value to each player, that could be an easier way for the AI to evaluate their future value without resorting to complex algorithms.

Spritze · 01-13-2010, 02:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlie Hough

What field and table in the database contain this number?

"Draft Value" in master.csv

Charlie Hough · 01-13-2010, 06:43 PM

Is this draft value field something that OOTP Developments adds to the Lahman database? I just downloaded the latest Lahman database, and there is no draft value field mentioned in the readme list of fields in master.csv.

I don't have OOTP 10 yet, so if it was a field added to the database by OOTP Developments, that's why I can't confirm that the field is there.

Spritze · 01-13-2010, 07:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Charlie Hough

Is this draft value field something that OOTP Developments adds to the Lahman database?

Yes, also affirmative. OOTP adds lots of fields for lots of things to the base Lahman csv's. Completely new csv's are also added and some are required for many in game choices to work.

actionjackson · 01-20-2010, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by BaseballMan

The computer seems to be drafting players by alphabetical order instead of by abilities. Is there something i need to turn on or off. I wasnt using a budget.
If you can tell me how to post my draft i will if it will help.
I can telll you the first pick for 1871 was Francis Abercrombie who played
1 gm irl. Cap Anson wasnt picked till 5 after Doug Allison.
Im sure its probably something simple.

I've reported this to tech support in this thread with pictures. Check it out and see if it covers your issue.

BaseballMan · 01-20-2010, 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by actionjackson

I've reported this to tech support in this thread with pictures. Check it out and see if it covers your issue.

I found the answer in another thread. It was because i was using an edited database and not the one that came with the game.

12-25-2009, 09:20 AM	#1 (permalink)
BaseballMan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 3,474 Thanked 82x in 55 posts	Computer drafting players by name instead of ratings The computer seems to be drafting players by alphabetical order instead of by abilities. Is there something i need to turn on or off. I wasnt using a budget. If you can tell me how to post my draft i will if it will help. I can telll you the first pick for 1871 was Francis Abercrombie who played 1 gm irl. Cap Anson wasnt picked till 5 after Doug Allison. Im sure its probably something simple.

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12-25-2009, 11:42 AM	#3 (permalink)
BaseballMan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 3,474 Thanked 82x in 55 posts	I didnt mess with the AI options. Its set to what the game starts a league at. I have scouts scouts and coaching off.

12-25-2009, 12:10 PM	#4 (permalink)
BaseballMan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 3,474 Thanked 82x in 55 posts	Figured it out. I had checked the " use pre-defined draft value for AI. I guess thats what you were referring too.

12-25-2009, 12:25 PM	#5 (permalink)
BaseballMan Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 3,474 Thanked 82x in 55 posts	It was going by names because i had removed the historical_database.odb file from the stats folder. It keeps me from having the teams i want. I guess it mirrors the real draft? I dont want the AI taking a player because he was taken #5 irl but because the ai thinks he is the best player at that position or the best overall player.

01-11-2010, 08:28 PM	#8 (permalink)
Charlie Hough All Star Starter Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,501 Thanked 294x in 155 posts	Well, it's supposed to work, but now that I've tested it, you're right. It makes some improvement for inaugural drafts, but only in terms of making many of the top picks well known. But it seems unable to determine whether these established veterans have any future value.

01-12-2010, 06:25 PM	#9 (permalink)
Spritze Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Redmond Wa and Cape Coast Ghana Posts: 2,817 Thanked 306x in 217 posts	That is because this number is NOT seasonal it is a career value only. It never changes, it is a single number per player in the master.csv file. It is ONLY intended to be used with rookie drafts. To be used for any other purpose there would need to be a seasonal version of this number that decreases until a players retirement. This seasonal value does not exist in any existancial frame of reference. Nope, it don't.

01-13-2010, 06:43 PM	#12 (permalink)
Charlie Hough All Star Starter Join Date: May 2006 Posts: 1,501 Thanked 294x in 155 posts	Is this draft value field something that OOTP Developments adds to the Lahman database? I just downloaded the latest Lahman database, and there is no draft value field mentioned in the readme list of fields in master.csv. I don't have OOTP 10 yet, so if it was a field added to the database by OOTP Developments, that's why I can't confirm that the field is there.