Just a rant

koohead · 02-01-2010, 12:29 AM

Not sure if you all have seen my various posts first about a saved league with 30 years of sim data that I lost, but then problems with templates I was having. So I finally gave up and decided to recreate my universe from scratch instead of trying to recover the corrupt saved game and/or use a template of the saved game to create the new game. 5 hours of work entering all the various team names, salary/financial info, league totals, FA rules, blah blah...and I'm going to change the start date for one of the leagues and the game freezes and locks up on me. done. 5 hours of work lost. great way to end the weekend.

Markus Heinsohn · 02-01-2010, 09:28 AM

Hmm, I just checked the code, and changing the start date of a league does nothing 'critical', so the likely reason for the lockup was not OOTP but probably Windows acting up... sorry, this sucks

koohead · 02-01-2010, 10:18 AM

You're probably right Markus. I haven't had ANY problems with OOTPX or any version prior to that until the past month, then everything went whacky.
I've had the game lock up when changing the date before, but again that was when I was working with a template built off of the saved game that was crashing when finishing a day so I chalked it up to a bombed template. But now that it did the same thing on a brand new from scratch world, it does make sense that its more environmental than code (esp since I searched and haven't found another report of this).
Oh well. Back at it tonight or later this week. maybe I'll get my world rebuilt in time to migrate it over to OOTP11.

Malleus Dei · 02-01-2010, 11:40 AM

When constructing an elaborate template, it pays to make several interim saves along the way that you can delete later. Never risk more data than you can lose without pain.

koohead · 02-01-2010, 11:44 AM

Is there a way to save while creating the game without actually hitting the start game button?

Afino · 02-01-2010, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by koohead

Is there a way to save while creating the game without actually hitting the start game button?

When creating my universe (which took several hours), I'd save the universe as a template at several different points. That was the only way I knew how.

Malleus Dei · 02-01-2010, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Afino

When creating my universe (which took several hours), I'd save the universe as a template at several different points. That was the only way I knew how.

That's what I do and what I was suggesting. I starting saving the new template as as version 1, as in MYLEAGUE1 and then increment the number each save as I keeping working (MYLEAGUE2, MYLEAGUE3...MYLEAGUE23 or whatever). Then I rename the final save to MYLEAGUE and delete all the others. It saves you from losing hours of work and it doesn't take long.

Back up early and often!

koohead · 02-01-2010, 04:32 PM

Gotcha. Will have to adopt that. I was trying to stay away from Templates due to my lack of success with my earlier attempt but let's chalk it up to a hosed up league that I created the template from and see if starting from scratch is more successful. Thanks gents.

Afino · 02-01-2010, 04:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Malleus Dei

That's what I do and what I was suggesting. I starting saving the new template as as version 1, as in MYLEAGUE1 and then increment the number each save as I keeping working (MYLEAGUE2, MYLEAGUE3...MYLEAGUE23 or whatever). Then I rename the final save to MYLEAGUE and delete all the others. It saves you from losing hours of work and it doesn't take long.

Back up early and often!

That's exactly my process

Malleus Dei · 02-01-2010, 04:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Afino

That's exactly my process

Well, they say great minds think alike.

Jabs · 02-01-2010, 05:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malleus Dei

That's what I do and what I was suggesting. I starting saving the new template as as version 1, as in MYLEAGUE1 and then increment the number each save as I keeping working (MYLEAGUE2, MYLEAGUE3...MYLEAGUE23 or whatever). Then I rename the final save to MYLEAGUE and delete all the others. It saves you from losing hours of work and it doesn't take long.

Back up early and often!

After losing a large college league in similar fashion to koohead, I started doing the same as MD by numbering my saved templates along the way. That lost league was about 4 hours of my life I will never get back, and I don't plan on having that happen again.

Killing Time · 02-01-2010, 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Malleus Dei

Well, they say great minds think alike.

And so do the two of yours!

02-01-2010, 12:29 AM	#1 (permalink)
koohead All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Litchfield Park, AZ Posts: 1,671 Thanks: 58 Thanked 30x in 19 posts	Just a rant Not sure if you all have seen my various posts first about a saved league with 30 years of sim data that I lost, but then problems with templates I was having. So I finally gave up and decided to recreate my universe from scratch instead of trying to recover the corrupt saved game and/or use a template of the saved game to create the new game. 5 hours of work entering all the various team names, salary/financial info, league totals, FA rules, blah blah...and I'm going to change the start date for one of the leagues and the game freezes and locks up on me. done. 5 hours of work lost. great way to end the weekend. __________________ Mass Select feature in OOTP11! woot! GM - NC Clippers of the NPBL; 2001,2004,2007 FF Central Division Champs; 2001, 2004, 2007,2038 FFL Champions; 2004,2038 NPBL Champions

02-01-2010, 09:28 AM	#2 (permalink)
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02-01-2010, 10:18 AM	#3 (permalink)
koohead All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Litchfield Park, AZ Posts: 1,671 Thanks: 58 Thanked 30x in 19 posts	You're probably right Markus. I haven't had ANY problems with OOTPX or any version prior to that until the past month, then everything went whacky. I've had the game lock up when changing the date before, but again that was when I was working with a template built off of the saved game that was crashing when finishing a day so I chalked it up to a bombed template. But now that it did the same thing on a brand new from scratch world, it does make sense that its more environmental than code (esp since I searched and haven't found another report of this). Oh well. Back at it tonight or later this week. maybe I'll get my world rebuilt in time to migrate it over to OOTP11. __________________ Mass Select feature in OOTP11! woot! GM - NC Clippers of the NPBL; 2001,2004,2007 FF Central Division Champs; 2001, 2004, 2007,2038 FFL Champions; 2004,2038 NPBL Champions

02-01-2010, 11:44 AM	#5 (permalink)
koohead All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Litchfield Park, AZ Posts: 1,671 Thanks: 58 Thanked 30x in 19 posts	Is there a way to save while creating the game without actually hitting the start game button? __________________ Mass Select feature in OOTP11! woot! GM - NC Clippers of the NPBL; 2001,2004,2007 FF Central Division Champs; 2001, 2004, 2007,2038 FFL Champions; 2004,2038 NPBL Champions

02-01-2010, 04:32 PM	#8 (permalink)
koohead All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Litchfield Park, AZ Posts: 1,671 Thanks: 58 Thanked 30x in 19 posts	Gotcha. Will have to adopt that. I was trying to stay away from Templates due to my lack of success with my earlier attempt but let's chalk it up to a hosed up league that I created the template from and see if starting from scratch is more successful. Thanks gents. __________________ Mass Select feature in OOTP11! woot! GM - NC Clippers of the NPBL; 2001,2004,2007 FF Central Division Champs; 2001, 2004, 2007,2038 FFL Champions; 2004,2038 NPBL Champions

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