More Ai Trade Questions

[DanDiaz]

Modern Standard Game
0-250 Scale
No trading Draft Picks

Ok, its draft and the AI just took the MR I was coveting one pick before me so I figured I would trade for him.Good player 250FB, 212 Curve, 170s both Mv and Control and 55 Stamina.

AI is 2 games back and has a lousy bullpen, a 1B hitting .179 and 3 outfielders batting under .200

I offer:

38yr old MR with a 3.36 era, 204FB,201Sink,120M and 99C with a 600K sal
24yr old AAA1b hitting .354, 154Contact, 99Pwr, 120Eye and 147Defense
23yr old AAACF hitting .337 127Contact, 86Pwr, 137Eye, 150+ at LFCFRF
25yr old AAAMR 3.79Era 157FB, 144Curve, 129Sink, 120MV, 115Ctrl, 88St
27yr old AAAMR 4.12 era, 192fb, 111slider, 115mv, 132ctrl, 104st

and the AI says it isn't close, all five players would improve their 25 man roster, 4 for years to come, for a 18yr old MR, even if he is good.

I am willing to add more, but when I click the button to see what would make it work the AI only wants my 24yr old starting C who is 134C, 162Pw, 133Eye and 177Defense, hitting .343 with 12HRs a stud, I wouldn't trade him straight up.

2 Questions, should the AI make or at least be close on this one, and if u were the Ai, would you make it.

[PSUColonel]

What are your AI evaluation settings? Will the AI look more heavily at ratings rather than stats?

[Flying Dutchmen]

On top of the AI evaluation issue, what difficulty do you have trading set at? With what preferences, if any? Going off of the previous post, if you have AI evaluation based off of ratings, the low BAs of those players will mean little, if nothing, if those players have comparable ratings to those you're trying to trade them.

[ptwarr18]

Originally Posted by DanDiaz

AI is 2 games back and has a lousy bullpen, a 1B hitting .179 and 3 outfielders batting under .200

Just seems crazy too me that they can be 2 back with this combo.

To answer your questions I'm going on the assumption that like others said, players are being evaluated based on ratings, or else the A.I. would probably anxious to make a deal given the poor stat lines. That being said, I'd have to see the ratings of their OF's and even a couple guys in their pen to determine if they "should" do it or not.

[DanDiaz]

Trading hard, favor prospects,

Thanks, I didn't even think of ratings,

I have AI Eval at 65% ratings. I went over each of the 1b, of, and mr players that I said were struggling and 4 of my 5 players would have been signifigant upgrades.

Also, why does the AI feel so far off on this trade that it wants perhaps the best young catcher in the game to make it even.

Also, the 1st place team is one game over .500, so whole division stinks.

Thanks for your ideas

[Flying Dutchmen]

Given your settings, here's my guess. You're trading for a prospect and apparently a good one. So given that your settings are "Favor Prospects" that will boost the rating the team you're trading with will give him. On top of that, you have it set on hard, which also increases the quality of the offer you will need to make in order for the trade to go through.

Then you need to look at what you're offering. How does the other team scout these players? It doesn't matter what your scout or the "true" ratings are, unless you have scouting off. They may think these guys aren't as good as you're stating. As regarding your offer, you're really only giving two prospects - the 1B and CF. The other players are 25 and older and the 37-yo MR is really worth nothing in a "Favor Prospects" world and given that the game already down weights MR pretty substantially.

It's hard to make a trade in "hard" without the other team trying to screw you over as least to some extent. But with "favor prospects" I can guarantee one thing: if you want a player with any meaningful potential who's a prospect, be prepared to have to give up a stud prospect of your own or a superstar player.

[PSUColonel]

Originally Posted by Flying Dutchmen

It's hard to make a trade in "hard" without the other team trying to screw you over as least to some extent. But with "favor prospects" I can guarantee one thing: if you want a player with any meaningful potential who's a prospect, be prepared to have to give up a stud prospect of your own or a superstar player.

Given this is the case, I often wonder what it is like trading with difficulty at hard, but trading preference at normal? Is this a bit more realistic? Or is favor prospects (which I've been playing with as long as I can remember) a necessary evil to prevent humans from ripping off the AI on a consistent basis?

[Flying Dutchmen]

Originally Posted by PSUColonel

Given this is the case, I have often wonder what it is like trading with difficulty at hard, but trading preference at normal? Is this a bit more realistic? Or is favor prospects (which I've been playing with as long as I can remember) a necessary evil to prevent humans from ripping off the AI on a consistent basis?

This is a good question, as I've always done what you have as well. I'd like to think it's the hard difficulty that serves to at least limit the widely known (and exploited) additive value loop hole that makes lots of mediocrity for a star possible, but I've never tried it without the favor prospects condition as well. Given what we're learning from thing like sabermetrics and seeing in baseball this offseason, the almost hyper value for prospects in this setup seems more and more in line with the real world.