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Old 04-07-2010, 02:52 PM   #1 (permalink)
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Can't handle spring training injury

Ok. I've had this problems many times before and now it just pops up again. Spring training just ended in my online league. So I need to get my roster back down from the Spring Training 40 to the Regular Season Active 25.

But one of the players who was called up (I didn't put him on the roster, and wouldn't have if I'd had a choice) was injured. In fact he only has a seven day injury (so under any other circumstances I'd just let him sit on the roster injured rather than put on the 14 day DL). The game will not let me demote him (it says "Put the player on the DL"). I'd rather not put him on the 14 day DL. But I have to.

The only other option is to leave an injured, second class player on my opening day active roster. That is not really a feasible option. So I'll have to put him on the 14-day DL.

Next comes chapter two of the problem. So this scrub has been sitting on the 14-day DL for seven days after he was healed. Now he's finally ready to come off of the DL. What I want to do is demote him to AAA (or lower). But the game won't let me do that. It will tell me that he has a major league contract and needs to be on the active roster.

This is ridiculous. I need to move him from the DL to the major league roster in order to then demote him. The problem with that is going to be that my active roster will be full.

Usually have a workaround. I can temporarily demote a player, opening up a slot. Make the transfer with the injured scrub. And then promote the guy that I ridiculously needed to demote back up to the active roster. And every time I do this I worry that the good player I ridiculously demoted will take a secret/mysterious morale hit for having been demoted.

This workaround only works if I have a player that I can demote from the active roster. I'm always afraid that one day I'd have a roster with no players that can be demoted (they need to go through waivers or they refuse). Fortunately that hasn't happened yet, ... to me...but I would imagine it's happened to someone in the OOTP community. I can't think of a workaround for that situation. A team would be forced to make a move which would hurt the team.

Anyway, after this long-winded explanation, I really just wanted to ask if this issue is going to be addressed in OOTP 11. Has anyone put it on the wish list for OOTP 11? Is it being addressed?

I can kind of understand why it is the way it is (because OOTP kind of artificially enforces some pseudo MLB rules by artificially using roster status). But I think this is a real enough situation that it should be corrected in some form.

The simplest solution I believe would be to disable that "Player is injured, place him on the DL" error during spring training and before any games are played on the opening day, thus allowing the injured player to be demoted during spring training. This would resolve the whole problem. Of course there are probably other solutions that may be worked also.

By the way, someone explained to me that in MLB, when this situation arises, a player is removed from the DL, placed on the active roster, and then demoted (or waivered if necessary) all rolled up into one single action rather than broken down into parts with artificial requirements. MLB looks at the end result rather than restrict each of the parts. So in MLB it's done without trouble.

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I may be wrong, but I think this is fixed in OOTP 11.
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Old 04-07-2010, 06:55 PM   #3 (permalink)
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If you're playing solo, could you workaround more simply by going to Commissioner mode, then editing the injured player onto the minor league team? If so, that would prevent the temporary promotion/demotion, which always causes morale hits when I do it. It should also avoid a morale hit by the injured player, who shouldn't be at all upset about being sent back to where he belongs.
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Could you not just Waive and DFA the player from the DL. It will leave him in limbo for a week, or claimed by another team, but i would imagine that would be a better scenario than demoting an MLB adequate player.
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