1901 - 2006

MattH3322 · 03-24-2007, 08:10 AM

I have run a sim from 1901 - 2006 just because I was bored and I knew I could get it done in a few hours.

If anyone wants to know how a player turned out or a team has done, let me know and I will post some of the results.

Fibonacci · 03-24-2007, 10:01 AM

From what the testers have been saying so far, the historical sim engine seems to reproduce pretty accurate offensive results. My questions regarding defense have generally been ignored, and I find this troublesome. I'd appreciate your general views on your defensive results. Do the correct players (Al Kaline, Brooks Robinson, Ozzie Smith, et.,) dominate their era's fielding statistics and with golden gloves?

Doughnuts? · 03-24-2007, 11:50 AM

I've seen some posts indicating a problem with Ruth, that he's hitting 80 hr's and 220 rbi's in the early 20's. What did you get?

Kelric · 03-24-2007, 12:45 PM

I'd be interested in knowing about guys who had shortened careers for one reason or another. Tony Conigliaro, for instance. I haven't run any sims myself but I'm curious as to whether the game just drops him off a cliff or not with recalc due to his real life injuries.

MattH3322 · 03-24-2007, 01:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Fibonacci

From what the testers have been saying so far, the historical sim engine seems to reproduce pretty accurate offensive results. My questions regarding defense have generally been ignored, and I find this troublesome. I'd appreciate your general views on your defensive results. Do the correct players (Al Kaline, Brooks Robinson, Ozzie Smith, et.,) dominate their era's fielding statistics and with golden gloves?

I haven't gotten a detailed look yet but I can tell you that Ozzie never did get a gold glove. But I will look deeper into it tonight.

MattH3322 · 03-24-2007, 01:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Doughnuts?

I've seen some posts indicating a problem with Ruth, that he's hitting 80 hr's and 220 rbi's in the early 20's. What did you get?

He never hit 80. The highest he hit in a season was 58 and that was in 1921. In his 20 year career he hit 653.

So I think that is pretty close.

MattH3322 · 03-24-2007, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Kelric

I'd be interested in knowing about guys who had shortened careers for one reason or another. Tony Conigliaro, for instance. I haven't run any sims myself but I'm curious as to whether the game just drops him off a cliff or not with recalc due to his real life injuries.

Looks like they kind of drop off. In real life his career pretty much ended in 71 but did try to make a come back in 75. In my league his career ended in 74. But he also had a career with injurys all over the place with the worst being 10 months with a ruptured bicep tendon in 69.

MattH3322 · 03-24-2007, 02:03 PM

by the way Frank Thomas does have 4 Gold Gloves in his career.

Fibonacci · 03-24-2007, 02:08 PM

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Originally Posted by MattH3322

I haven't gotten a detailed look yet but I can tell you that Ozzie never did get a gold glove. But I will look deeper into it tonight.

I certainly appreciate it. I've learned that when questions are ignored around here, it's usually because the answers aren't what the folks want to hear.

MattH3322 · 03-24-2007, 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Fibonacci

I certainly appreciate it. I've learned that when questions are ignored around here, it's usually because the answers aren't what the folks want to hear.

If I don't have an answer its because it hard to figure out and I will tell you.

Fibonacci · 03-24-2007, 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by MattH3322

If I don't have an answer its because it hard to figure out and I will tell you.

I was in no way implying that you personally don't or wouldn't answer questions.

redsox45 · 03-24-2007, 03:37 PM

Fibonacci,

There has been a lot of activity around these boards the past couple of days. Please understand that we're trying to help as many people as we can.

A lot of the focus during beta was on getting solid batting and pitching stats. Fielding is not perfected yet. I can't tell you specifically whether it is "good" or "bad" or "just right", but I can tell you that if you have issues with fielding, they will be looked into.

Will

MattH3322 · 03-24-2007, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Fibonacci

I was in no way implying that you personally don't or wouldn't answer questions.

I know. I was just telling you that I wouldn't not respond. I will tell you why.

Tekneek · 03-25-2007, 08:01 AM

I'm curious about :

Dale Murphy
Bob Horner
Phil Niekro
Hank Aaron
Eddie Mathews
Brett Butler
Joe Oliver
Bill Doran
Norm Charlton

redmarkYankees · 03-25-2007, 08:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Fibonacci

Do the correct players (Al Kaline, Brooks Robinson, Ozzie Smith, et.,) dominate their era's fielding statistics and with golden gloves?

GG's: 0, 0, 3 respectively (1901-2007, Lahman).

TJdaSportsGuy · 03-25-2007, 02:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MattH3322

I have run a sim from 1901 - 2006 just because I was bored and I knew I could get it done in a few hours.

If anyone wants to know how a player turned out or a team has done, let me know and I will post some of the results.

I tried doing something similar, but got frustrated when I found that certain players didn't start out on the team they were supposed to start out on. For example, Mickey Mantle came up through the Pirates organization. Babe Ruth began his career as a St. Louis Cardinal.

Is there an option to make it so that by default, each player begins his career with the organization he's supposed to start with?

redsox45 · 03-25-2007, 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by TJdaSportsGuy

I tried doing something similar, but got frustrated when I found that certain players didn't start out on the team they were supposed to start out on. For example, Mickey Mantle came up through the Pirates organization. Babe Ruth began his career as a St. Louis Cardinal.

Is there an option to make it so that by default, each player begins his career with the organization he's supposed to start with?

Yeah. You just have to turn off the draft. Players will import onto their real teams.

Will

Nukester · 03-25-2007, 06:51 PM

Dave Kingman and Rube Kroh

Tycobbler · 03-25-2007, 08:36 PM

Ty Cobb 1911- stolen bases... how many ?

RoyalsBlue · 03-25-2007, 08:58 PM

How did George Brett & Steve Busby fare in your sim?

03-24-2007, 08:10 AM	#1 (permalink)
MattH3322 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Chicago area Posts: 752	1901 - 2006 I have run a sim from 1901 - 2006 just because I was bored and I knew I could get it done in a few hours. If anyone wants to know how a player turned out or a team has done, let me know and I will post some of the results. __________________ People say us Irish have a bad reputation for drinking and fighting. It makes me so mad that I want to get drunk and punch someone.

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Fibonacci Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Sep 2004 Posts: 264	From what the testers have been saying so far, the historical sim engine seems to reproduce pretty accurate offensive results. My questions regarding defense have generally been ignored, and I find this troublesome. I'd appreciate your general views on your defensive results. Do the correct players (Al Kaline, Brooks Robinson, Ozzie Smith, et.,) dominate their era's fielding statistics and with golden gloves? __________________ It is not certain that everything is uncertain. - Blaise Pascal

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Kelric Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Greater Boston Area Posts: 3,982 Thanked 46x in 36 posts	I'd be interested in knowing about guys who had shortened careers for one reason or another. Tony Conigliaro, for instance. I haven't run any sims myself but I'm curious as to whether the game just drops him off a cliff or not with recalc due to his real life injuries. __________________ Former Co-Commish and owner of the Boston Red Sox, 1783-1144, .609%, of the defunct Overlords Baseball League (1930-48). 17 Division wins, 9 ALCS wins, 5 World Series wins.

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MattH3322 All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Chicago area Posts: 752	by the way Frank Thomas does have 4 Gold Gloves in his career. __________________ People say us Irish have a bad reputation for drinking and fighting. It makes me so mad that I want to get drunk and punch someone.

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redsox45 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Machias, Maine Posts: 4,569 Blog Entries: 1	Fibonacci, There has been a lot of activity around these boards the past couple of days. Please understand that we're trying to help as many people as we can. A lot of the focus during beta was on getting solid batting and pitching stats. Fielding is not perfected yet. I can't tell you specifically whether it is "good" or "bad" or "just right", but I can tell you that if you have issues with fielding, they will be looked into. Will __________________ Top Five Books I Ever Read: 1. Murder of Roger Ackroyd -- Agatha Christie 2. Birds of Prey -- Wilbur Smith 3. King Solomon's Mines - H. Rider Haggard 4. Comstock Lode -- Louis L'Amour 5. Andersonville -- McKinley Kantor

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Doughnuts? All Star Reserve Join Date: Sep 2005 Posts: 704	I've seen some posts indicating a problem with Ruth, that he's hitting 80 hr's and 220 rbi's in the early 20's. What did you get?

03-25-2007, 08:01 AM	#14 (permalink)
Tekneek Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Bethlehem, GA, USA Posts: 317 Thanked 1x in 1 post	I'm curious about : Dale Murphy Bob Horner Phil Niekro Hank Aaron Eddie Mathews Brett Butler Joe Oliver Bill Doran Norm Charlton __________________ OOTP2007 Historical League Experiment.

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Nukester All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Newburgh, NY Posts: 1,930 Thanked 2x in 2 posts	Dave Kingman and Rube Kroh __________________ Well, I don't really think that the end can be assessed as of itself as being the end because what does the end feel like? It's like saying when you try to extrapolate the end of the universe, you say, if the universe is indeed infinite, then how - what does that mean? How far is all the way, and then if it stops, what's stopping it, and what's behind what's stopping it? So, what's the end, you know, is my question to you.

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Tycobbler All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: 20 minutes from Comerica Park Posts: 1,647 Thanked 23x in 14 posts	Ty Cobb 1911- stolen bases... how many ?

03-25-2007, 08:58 PM	#20 (permalink)
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