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Old 04-12-2007, 03:08 PM   #1 (permalink)
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cool coincidence

According to Wikipedia:

"Phoebus began his career with Baltimore pitching shutouts in his first two starts, on September 15 and 20, 1966"

Imagine my surprise at reading the article after this :

http://members.cox.net/ugen624/shutouts.jpg
http://members.cox.net/ugen624/shutouts2.jpg

(sorry, Imageshack isn't working for me at the moment)
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Old 04-13-2007, 12:18 AM   #2 (permalink)
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Very Cool.
I am amazed at how accurate the historical stats are in OOTP2007, especially with the 3 year recalculate.
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Old 04-13-2007, 11:41 AM   #3 (permalink)
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Game must be broke - Your guy did it 5 months to early...

JK... very cool indeed.....
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Very cool, indeed, indeed!
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Old 04-24-2007, 03:04 PM   #5 (permalink)
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Cool

LOL. I was just thinking about what historical flukes would be the MOST DIFFICLT to duplicate given the underlying ratings of the players. Some obvious ones come to mind:

10) I think Clemen's two 20 K games is kind of a fluke. If you replay his career through with accurate roster ratings, I believe he would hit 18 at least once but not 20 on two different occasions.
9) Nolan Ryan's 7 no-hitters. He was incredible, but is this predictable given his career ratings. Maybe it was, becuase I know he also had about 10 or 12 1 hitters.
8) Johnny Vander Meer's two consecutive no-hitters (if Koufax or Gibson did it, it wouldn't have been so strange.
7) Don Larsen's WS perfect game (again, if Koufax or Gibson does it, its not a great surprise).
6) Christy Mathewson's 3 WS shutouts.
5) Brady Anderson's 50 homers.
5) Luis Gonzalez's 54 homers/.700 slugging year.
4) Denny McClain's 31 wins in 1968, or Bob Gibson's 1.12 ERA that year (I know Pedro's ERA+ was better, but it wasn't a fluke - he had 4 or 5 crazy seasons like that).
3) Roger Maris' 61 homers (looking at his career trajectory, I'd say 35-45 was his 'rated' potential that year).
2) Joe D's 56 game hitting streak. I would imagine that people replaying the entire century would be hard pressed to show a 56 game hit streak. I'm guessing one in every 10 or so accurate sims would match it. But who knows? Joe D did have a 61 (I believe?) game streak in the minors, and his brother Dom had a 34 game streak! Now that's weird.
1) Steve Carlton's recording 46% of his team's victories in 1972. That is pretty hard to match.

Fortunately, the game will more lilely produce new and original flukes for us, which makes it so much fun.
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Old 04-26-2007, 04:20 PM   #6 (permalink)
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What about Bert Campenaris hitting 22 home runs in 1970?

Before that, he had season home run totals of: 4,6,5,3,4,2

Then he ate some magic pill and he hit 22, then followed it up with:

5,8,4,2,4,1,5,1,0,2,1,0

19 seasons, total of 79 home runs. That means he had 57 in the other 18 seasons.

I use to think that it was a typo in my Baseball Encyclopedia when I was a kid.
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2) Joe D's 56 game hitting streak. I would imagine that people replaying the entire century would be hard pressed to show a 56 game hit streak. I'm guessing one in every 10 or so accurate sims would match it. But who knows? Joe D did have a 61 (I believe?) game streak in the minors, and his brother Dom had a 34 game streak! Now that's weird.
In one of my historical leagues in Beta Testing Joe Jackson had a 56 game hitting streak spread over two seasons. Here is my original post

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At first I thought it was bogus 'cause it went over two seasons. The streak started 7-10-23 and ended 4-22-24. Turns out he hit in 51 consecutive games from 7-10-23 to 9-5-23. Then was injured and out until the next season. The next season he hits in the first 5 games to set the bar. The only anomaly is that in the real schedule the Athletics did not play on April 22, 1924.

I did not have Almanac on so I don't have box scores.
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LOL. I was just thinking about what historical flukes would be the MOST DIFFICLT to duplicate given the underlying ratings of the players. Some obvious ones come to mind:

8) Johnny Vander Meer's two consecutive no-hitters (if Koufax or Gibson did it, it wouldn't have been so strange.
It wasn't Vander Meer, but I'm pretty sure that someone in the beta test also had a guy pitch 2 consecutive no-hitters.
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In one of my historical leagues in Beta Testing Joe Jackson had a 56 game hitting streak spread over two seasons. Here is my original post



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Ive had Lou Gehrig hit 59 over 2 seasons
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Ive had Lou Gehrig hit 59 over 2 seasons
For some reason the standard hitting streak record is considered for only one season, and there is a seperate record for multiple season streaks. So a 59-gamer in two seasons would probably ignite a lot of contraversy.
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That is a good one.

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What about Bert Campenaris hitting 22 home runs in 1970?

Before that, he had season home run totals of: 4,6,5,3,4,2

Then he ate some magic pill and he hit 22, then followed it up with:

5,8,4,2,4,1,5,1,0,2,1,0

19 seasons, total of 79 home runs. That means he had 57 in the other 18 seasons.

I use to think that it was a typo in my Baseball Encyclopedia when I was a kid.
8.55 standard deviations of his 18 season mean! 28% of the home runs in his career came in one season, thats like Hank Aaron hitting 210 one year.
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It wasn't Vander Meer, but I'm pretty sure that someone in the beta test also had a guy pitch 2 consecutive no-hitters.

I had a guy pitch back-to-back no hitters.

If you include the half game before and after those two, he had 27 scoreless innings.

I have a post somewhere on the boards from when it happened.
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