Clemens No-Hitter in Game 7 of '84 WS

JohnE · 07-08-2007, 06:07 PM

I started a historical league in 1983 and have been controlling my beloved Atlanta Braves to see if I can rewrite history and provide their fans (and Dale Murphy) with a much better decade. I finished in 2nd or 3rd place in 1983, but the pennant race came down to the last week of the season. Prior to the '84 season I traded away Milt Thompson and a couple of pitchers to the Red Sox for Roger Clemens (the Sox were desperate for a CF).

Clemens had a very good rookie year: 16-10 with a 2.67 ERA over 30 starts and 218K's in 225.2 innings (Dwight Gooden won the Rookie Pitcher of the Year Award with a 1.83 ERA for the Mets). The Braves' staff also consisted of Don Sutton (18-10 with a 3.16 ERA), Pascual Perez (15-7 with a 2.43 ERA), and Steve Trout (13-11 with a 3.66 ERA). Gene Garber had 45 saves and a 2.36 ERA.

Dale Murphy had a good, but not great season (.273, 28 HR, 93 RBI, 39 SB's). Brett Butler had another fine season (after NOT being traded away for Len Barker). Butler hit .277 and had 67 SB's. Bob Horner struggled to hit for average (.233, 24 HR, 76 RBI). The offense was really sparked by new first baseman Pete O'Brien (.277, 25 HR, 94 RBI).

The Braves ran away with the division after the All Star break and finished 96-66. The rival Dodgers finished 2nd at 93-69. In the NLCS the Braves beat the Cardinals 4 games to 1. In the World Series they were matched up against the Yankees, who finished 103-59 and went on to beat the Angels in the ALCS. The Braves fell behind in the World Series 3 games to 2 with the remaining 2 games at Yankee Stadium. The Braves won Game 6 to force a final game. Rookie sensation Roger Clemens took the hill for the Braves and faced Ron Guidry. The box score tells the story better than I can...

Kelric · 07-09-2007, 12:39 AM

At least it was against the Yankees.

jtb · 07-09-2007, 12:54 AM

What a finish! You may want to lock up clemens for about 20 years.

Hazza · 07-09-2007, 09:25 AM

24 to be exact.

AZTarHeel · 07-09-2007, 12:43 PM

wow, one walk from perfection ... nice ...

Comedian2004 · 07-09-2007, 01:03 PM

Wonder what inning he issued the walk?

PerfectMisnomer · 07-09-2007, 01:38 PM

Is it safe to mention steroids in the early 80's? Kidding, that's very cool that he did it in game 7. If that happened in real life it'd go down as the best performance in sports history.

majesty95 · 07-10-2007, 10:41 PM

That's awesome! Makes me wanna start a historical season. I have actuallt been wanting to start one around the mid-80's. You don't happen to have the initial league file do you?

07-08-2007, 06:07 PM	#1 (permalink)
JohnE Bat Boy Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 4	Clemens No-Hitter in Game 7 of '84 WS I started a historical league in 1983 and have been controlling my beloved Atlanta Braves to see if I can rewrite history and provide their fans (and Dale Murphy) with a much better decade. I finished in 2nd or 3rd place in 1983, but the pennant race came down to the last week of the season. Prior to the '84 season I traded away Milt Thompson and a couple of pitchers to the Red Sox for Roger Clemens (the Sox were desperate for a CF). Clemens had a very good rookie year: 16-10 with a 2.67 ERA over 30 starts and 218K's in 225.2 innings (Dwight Gooden won the Rookie Pitcher of the Year Award with a 1.83 ERA for the Mets). The Braves' staff also consisted of Don Sutton (18-10 with a 3.16 ERA), Pascual Perez (15-7 with a 2.43 ERA), and Steve Trout (13-11 with a 3.66 ERA). Gene Garber had 45 saves and a 2.36 ERA. Dale Murphy had a good, but not great season (.273, 28 HR, 93 RBI, 39 SB's). Brett Butler had another fine season (after NOT being traded away for Len Barker). Butler hit .277 and had 67 SB's. Bob Horner struggled to hit for average (.233, 24 HR, 76 RBI). The offense was really sparked by new first baseman Pete O'Brien (.277, 25 HR, 94 RBI). The Braves ran away with the division after the All Star break and finished 96-66. The rival Dodgers finished 2nd at 93-69. In the NLCS the Braves beat the Cardinals 4 games to 1. In the World Series they were matched up against the Yankees, who finished 103-59 and went on to beat the Angels in the ALCS. The Braves fell behind in the World Series 3 games to 2 with the remaining 2 games at Yankee Stadium. The Braves won Game 6 to force a final game. Rookie sensation Roger Clemens took the hill for the Braves and faced Ron Guidry. The box score tells the story better than I can... Attached Images

07-09-2007, 12:39 AM	#2 (permalink)
Kelric Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Greater Boston Area Posts: 3,982 Thanked 46x in 36 posts	At least it was against the Yankees. __________________ Former Co-Commish and owner of the Boston Red Sox, 1783-1144, .609%, of the defunct Overlords Baseball League (1930-48). 17 Division wins, 9 ALCS wins, 5 World Series wins.

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07-09-2007, 01:38 PM	#7 (permalink)
PerfectMisnomer All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 1,221	Is it safe to mention steroids in the early 80's? Kidding, that's very cool that he did it in game 7. If that happened in real life it'd go down as the best performance in sports history. __________________ PCBL -- Commissioner, Troy Heroes GM Current Avatar: SP Keith Ellison 20-8, 2.59 ERA and CL All-Star Game Starter

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jtb All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 552 Thanked 15x in 13 posts	What a finish! You may want to lock up clemens for about 20 years.

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Hazza Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Apr 2007 Posts: 237 Blog Entries: 21 Thanked 7x in 6 posts	24 to be exact.

07-10-2007, 10:41 PM	#8 (permalink)
majesty95 All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Fort Worth, TX Posts: 504 Thanked 17x in 13 posts	That's awesome! Makes me wanna start a historical season. I have actuallt been wanting to start one around the mid-80's. You don't happen to have the initial league file do you?

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