Normalized Stats: 1871

swampdragon · 06-24-2008, 06:33 PM

Garlon's post inspired me to start an 1871 replay using normalized stats. There is absolutely no hitting (League BA well .200 after a month). Garlon, do you have modifiers that you use to start an 1871 replay with normalized stats? These results are so far off that I'll have to go back to my real stats replay unless you have some idea of what the modifiers should be.

Garlon · 06-24-2008, 07:52 PM

The LTM's will correct everything after the first season of play.

Spritze · 06-24-2008, 11:58 PM

hits =.939
2b=.639
3b= .986
hr=.513
bb=.302
hbp=.196
k=.148
errors= as is
dp=1.461
sp endurance=1.339
rp endurance= as is
gb%=.865
wp=.764
balk=.063
pb=11.604
SF=.401
Sac Bunts=.253
sb attempts=.783
sb success=.819

Spritze · 06-25-2008, 12:00 AM

Also keep an eye on SP Endurance, it can increase exponentially so that around 1900 it can be in the hundreds of thousands and cause really weird SP usage. Cap it manually at 1.5 or so.

swampdragon · 06-25-2008, 12:10 AM

Thanks.

Spritze · 06-25-2008, 12:11 AM

Other gamers have reported the exponential problem with BB and SB as well but I have not been able to confirm those.

Garlon · 06-25-2008, 12:33 AM

I ran a sim from 1901-2007 and the only high modifier I ended up with was for Sac Bunts. Everything else was below 1.500.

I suggest setting your own Strategy Settings and tell OOTP not to auto-update them. For example, you can set Pitcher Endurance to Normal or Low for all seasons and you will still get the proper SP usage because the automatic League Totals Modifier will automatically compensate for that. I usually set Hit and Run to Very Rarely because I think on higher settings it increases offense a bit more because baserunners will tend to get an extra base on singles more often...at least that's what I think is the case.

Spritze · 06-25-2008, 12:52 PM

Mr. Garlon:

All reported exponential challenges have been reported in leagues that start in 1871 which is way different than your 1901 start. About 30 years different. Please use the same test bed (ie; start in 1871) if you want to check this out.

I have been able to replicate the SP Endurance challenge in testing with leagues that begin in 1871. It goes goofy fairly regularly around 1900-1903.

Also with modifiers off (all set to one) I have been able to replicate the BB challenge but not with modifiers on so maybe that gamer just errored.

The SB challenge remains elusive. On or Off I haven't seen it. But of course that does not mean it is not there. Bigfoot is elusive as well but that don't mean he/she does/n't exist either.

06-24-2008, 06:33 PM	#1 (permalink)
swampdragon All Star Starter Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Lonely Mountain Posts: 1,873 Thanks: 3 Thanked 20x in 17 posts	Normalized Stats: 1871 Garlon's post inspired me to start an 1871 replay using normalized stats. There is absolutely no hitting (League BA well .200 after a month). Garlon, do you have modifiers that you use to start an 1871 replay with normalized stats? These results are so far off that I'll have to go back to my real stats replay unless you have some idea of what the modifiers should be. __________________ "The only way to oblige men to speak well of us is to act well." -- Voltaire

06-24-2008, 11:58 PM	#3 (permalink)
Spritze Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Redmond Wa and Cape Coast Ghana Posts: 2,946 Thanks: 16 Thanked 344x in 242 posts	Try these mofifier settings for the first year hits =.939 2b=.639 3b= .986 hr=.513 bb=.302 hbp=.196 k=.148 errors= as is dp=1.461 sp endurance=1.339 rp endurance= as is gb%=.865 wp=.764 balk=.063 pb=11.604 SF=.401 Sac Bunts=.253 sb attempts=.783 sb success=.819

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swampdragon All Star Starter Join Date: May 2002 Location: The Lonely Mountain Posts: 1,873 Thanks: 3 Thanked 20x in 17 posts	Thanks. __________________ "The only way to oblige men to speak well of us is to act well." -- Voltaire

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06-24-2008, 07:52 PM	#2 (permalink)
Garlon All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,551 Thanks: 0 Thanked 52x in 26 posts	The LTM's will correct everything after the first season of play.

06-25-2008, 12:00 AM	#4 (permalink)
Spritze Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Redmond Wa and Cape Coast Ghana Posts: 2,946 Thanks: 16 Thanked 344x in 242 posts	Also keep an eye on SP Endurance, it can increase exponentially so that around 1900 it can be in the hundreds of thousands and cause really weird SP usage. Cap it manually at 1.5 or so.

06-25-2008, 12:11 AM	#6 (permalink)
Spritze Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Redmond Wa and Cape Coast Ghana Posts: 2,946 Thanks: 16 Thanked 344x in 242 posts	Other gamers have reported the exponential problem with BB and SB as well but I have not been able to confirm those.

06-25-2008, 12:33 AM	#7 (permalink)
Garlon All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,551 Thanks: 0 Thanked 52x in 26 posts	I ran a sim from 1901-2007 and the only high modifier I ended up with was for Sac Bunts. Everything else was below 1.500. I suggest setting your own Strategy Settings and tell OOTP not to auto-update them. For example, you can set Pitcher Endurance to Normal or Low for all seasons and you will still get the proper SP usage because the automatic League Totals Modifier will automatically compensate for that. I usually set Hit and Run to Very Rarely because I think on higher settings it increases offense a bit more because baserunners will tend to get an extra base on singles more often...at least that's what I think is the case.

06-25-2008, 12:52 PM	#8 (permalink)
Spritze Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Redmond Wa and Cape Coast Ghana Posts: 2,946 Thanks: 16 Thanked 344x in 242 posts	Mr. Garlon: All reported exponential challenges have been reported in leagues that start in 1871 which is way different than your 1901 start. About 30 years different. Please use the same test bed (ie; start in 1871) if you want to check this out. I have been able to replicate the SP Endurance challenge in testing with leagues that begin in 1871. It goes goofy fairly regularly around 1900-1903. Also with modifiers off (all set to one) I have been able to replicate the BB challenge but not with modifiers on so maybe that gamer just errored. The SB challenge remains elusive. On or Off I haven't seen it. But of course that does not mean it is not there. Bigfoot is elusive as well but that don't mean he/she does/n't exist either.