1901 through 2007 replay

[RoyalsBlue]

I finally finished my replay up to 1-1-2008 and was surprised at some things I found.

No team has a double digit total in championships. The closest is the Athletics with 9 titles. Several teams have made it to the playoffs 20 plus times however: Braves (20), Twins (22), Athletics (21), Phillies (22), Pirates (20) and Giants (21)

As it stands, only three teams have never won a World Series title, the Diamondbacks, Royals, and Mariners.

Mark McGwire, who spent his entire career with the Cincinnati Reds, is the all-time home run leader with 801 and he also holds the single season record at 68, accomplished in 1991. However, McGwire has been retired since the 2002 season and the career total is within the sights of Barry Bonds, who is second with 775. At 42, however, Bonds career with the Giants may be coming to an end and he only hit 8 homers in an injury shortened 2007.

Stan Musial, who spent the bulk of his career as a Giant both in NY and SF, is the alltime hits leader with 3822, a cool 399 hits ahead of the real life leader Pete Rose.

Sandy Koufax, a career-long Cleveland Indians hurler through 1974, is the all-time strikeout leader with 4340, just ahead of Nolan Ryan (4071) and JR Richard (4025). These three are the only pitchers to cross the 4000 strikeout threshold.

[RoyalsBlue]

IRL, my favorite player for the Royals was George Brett. In my replay, he spent 20 of his 22 seasons with the Phillies, before finishing up with the Minnesota Twins.

Here's a comparison between reallife and the replay. Really pretty close, if you ask me

           G     AB      H    2B   3B    HR    RBI    SB    BB
REAL    2707  10349   3154   665  137   317   1595   201  1096
REPLAY  2830  10411   3160   583  128   303   1460   254  1044

[f.montoya]

Very impressive. How did Lou Brock, Maury Wills, Rickey Henderson, Vince Coleman and other guys like them do in your sim?

[RoyalsBlue]

Originally Posted by f.montoya

Very impressive. How did Lou Brock, Maury Wills, Rickey Henderson, Vince Coleman and other guys like them do in your sim?

Thanks for checking in! Here's the first couple guys of your request, Lou and Maury. Keep in mind that I didn't change any of the default settings when running this replay.

           G     AB      R      H     2B     3B     HR    RBI     BB     SB     AVG
REAL    2616  10332   1610   3023    486    141    149    900    761    938    .293
REPLAY  2594   7659   1088   2143    324    101     96    760    577    602    .280

Lou had a rough time in his career, especially late as he had several injuries that kept him under 100 games 4 times from 75-79. Originally drafted by the Boston Red Sox, Lou was traded for a pair of middle relievers in November of 64 to the Phils, which was just the start of his travels. In a span of 5 years, Lou went from Philly to SF to Sea/Mil back to Philly, traded each time. In his career, Lou lead the league twice in triples (1965/12 & 1969/11) and seven times in stolen bases (1964 through 1966/35/46/51, 1968/52, & 1972 through 1974/39/49/62). Lou was named player of the the week three times (1966, 1968, 1982), Rookie of the month in September 1960 and selected to the All Star game in 1966, 1968 & 1974.

           G     AB      R      H     2B     3B     HR    RBI     BB     SB     AVG
REAL    1942   7588   1067   2134    177     71     20    458    552    586    .281
REPLAY  1865   7193    859   1877    193     82     21    553    519    399    .261

Maury spent his career with 4 teams (Red Sox, Colt 45's, Orioles and Senators) with his longest stretch being 5 years in Houston after being taken 6th overall in the expansion draft. Maury was named player of the week once (1960), selected to the All-Star game in 1962, and a gold glove award winner at shortstop 4 times (1959, 1961, 1963, `1965).

[RoyalsBlue]

Originally Posted by f.montoya

Very impressive. How did Lou Brock, Maury Wills, Rickey Henderson, Vince Coleman and other guys like them do in your sim?

and here's the other two, Rickey and Vince

           G     AB       R      H     2B     3B     HR    RBI     BB     SB     AVG
REAL    3081  10961    2295   3055    510     66    297   1115   2190   1406    .279
REPLAY  2727   9192    1615   2457    391     80    214   1098   1673    782    .267

Rickey was drafted in 78 by the Dodgers. In this replay, Rickey retired 3 years earlier than IRL, and finished second in steals behind Billy Hamilton's 995. Rickey was a 3 time player of the week, 5 time Gold Glove winner and 6 time All Star. In 1982, he led the majors with a .427 OBP and in 1983 he led in runs with 116. His only postseason appearances were major disappoinments individually as he managed only 6 hits in 44 at bats

            G     AB     R      H     2B     3B     HR    RBI     BB     SB     AVG
REAL     1371   5406   849   1425    176     89     28    346    477    752    .264
REPLAY   1004   3117   472    815    128     44     14    259    321    423    .261

Vince was drafted by the Braves in 1984 and was traded to the Blue Jays prior to the 1991 season. His career had to be considered a disappointment as he sat around after his last full season in 1994 for two years until retiring in 1996. Multiple injuries throughout his career, along with drug suspensions, really kept Vince from meeting his full potential.

[Dagrims]

Were stolen bases down across the board in your replay, or just with those who were best in real life? Every one of the guys you posted about had significantly less steals than in real life.

[RoyalsBlue]

Originally Posted by Dagrims

Were stolen bases down across the board in your replay, or just with those who were best in real life? Every one of the guys you posted about had significantly less steals than in real life.

Dagrims, I'm really not sure. I haven't looked that hard at the steals, but it is something to research. I'll take a quick look and let you know.

[RoyalsBlue]

YEAR        NL     REPLAY           AL     REPLAY
2007      1643       1564 (-79)   1354       1221 (-133)
2006      1515       1530 (+15)   1252       1322 (+70)
2005      1349       1322 (-22)   1216       1190 (-26)
2004      1336       1309 (-27)   1253       1225 (-28)
2003      1294       1181 (-113)  1279       1198 (-81)
2002      1514       1376 (-138)  1236       1168 (-68)
2001      1456       1845 (+389)  1647       1585 (-62)
2000      1627       1658 (+31)   1297       1082 (-215)
1999      1959       1896 (-63)   1462       1536 (+74)
1998      1609       1760 (+151)  1675       1382 (-293)

Well, here's a quick comparison of leagues through the most recent 10 year span...draw from it what you will, but in this decade, it seems that the AL is down overall, while the NL is up overall. As you can see, some years the numbers are really very close, with only a couple of really out of whack variances (+389 and -293).

Again, this is using the default setup right out the box, so to speak. I'm still compiling numbers, but this is what I've got so far

[Bottom Of The Sixth]

RoyalsBlue,

I'm in the very beginning stages of running the same kind of league however I started in 1900.

In your Historical Options, did you Recalc the players ratings based on real stats after each year?

Also, did you have a minor league?

Thanks

[RoyalsBlue]

Originally Posted by Bottom Of The Sixth

RoyalsBlue,

I'm in the very beginning stages of running the same kind of league however I started in 1900.

In your Historical Options, did you Recalc the players ratings based on real stats after each year?

Also, did you have a minor league?

Thanks

B.O.T.S.,

The recalc was set at every 3 years, I believe that is the default setting once you download the file. And no, I didn't have any minors

Also, for those of you that are interested, my research on stolen bases in my replay is on hold at the moment, since I just got NCAA 09 for the 360. I should have the rest of the years posted sometime this weekend..

[jaguar8311]

how was the batting avereges? did you have the league modifers change every year? My averages always go up every year

[Garlon]

jaguar - let OOTP automatically adjust league totals modifiers each year for historical accuracy. You need to check that box. This is meant to be hands-off so that all you need to do is manage and play the game. The game automatically calculates the needed modifiers to produce the correct ratios for things like league batting average, HR per AB, FLD%, Double Plays, and so forth every season.

[jaguar8311]

I uncheck "league modifiers" because I don't want Historical Accuracy,

My goal is to try and get years 1901-Present to have league totals that we do in present day, what this means is that I want the league average to be around 260-265. When I did a test sim from 1901- to 1941, it started out good but steadily every year the averages climbed until in 1941 when the league average was 305!

[Garlon]

To do that you'd need to make your own custom era_stats.txt file with the leaue ratios that you want and apply that to all the yearly entries 1871-2007and swap that into the gam. Then you'd need to turn on automatically update league totals modifiers and the game will calculate the needed modifiers each seasn to produce those results.

The 1.000 modifiers does not mean you get modern day results. The outcomes are more complicated than that. But if you tell the game what you want it to do via the era_stats file and turn on the auto-update league totals modifiers it will do it perfectly for you each season.

I am uploading a modified era_stats file here. All seasons are set to 2001 ratios for everything, including double plays, SP usage, FLD%, etc.

The file is name modern_era_stats. You must download the file, and then rename it era_stats. You will find the game's default era_stats file here:

C:\Documents and Settings\Owner\My Documents\Out of the Park Developments\OOTP Baseball 9\database

You must rename the default file something else, like original_era_stats sp that you don't lose it. Then simply place this modified file in the folder.

Once you do that al you need to do is turn on "automatically update league totals modifiers each season or historical accuracy" and all seasons after the initial will play very close to these ratios.

[jaguar8311]

Thank you very much, I will try that

[jaguar8311]

I tested out your file, Batting averages are skyrocketing... down, started out with 265 in 1901 and I am in 1908 and it's 233, every year its gone down.

Edit: Simmed till 1917, its stagnant at around 243 right now

Edit 2 Simmed till 1930 around 234 right now, Lack of Home Runs are a huge problem, league leader had 1 last year

Edit 3: set it as "don't adjust historical modifiers" got stagnant averages throughout but they were 288, this is 1901- 1920

[RoyalsBlue]

Man, what a thread-jacking! Just kidding, glad to see this thread is useful for something besides taking up server space!

anywho, here's the second decade that I've gotten through

            NL     REPLAY           AL     REPLAY
1997      1817       1702 (-115)  1491       1683 (+192)
1996      1785       1550 (-235)  1454       1756 (+302)            
1995      1602       1330 (-272)  1331       1526 (+195)
1994      1646       1141 (-505)  1117       1883 (+766)
1993      1714       1465 (-249)  1549       1552 (+3)
1992      1560       1743 (+183)  1704       1759 (+55)
1991      1651       1422 (-229)  1469       1443 (-26)
1990      1787       1398 (-389)  1503       1635 (+132)
1989      1529       1370 (-159)  1587       1772 (+185)
1988      1789       1754 (-35)   1512       1610 (+98)

If you take into account that the players aren't distributed as IRL (which I didn't in my first post on this subject), the overall steals aren't bad and certainly don't look as bad as the individual leagues can make them look (+766/-505 for example). Are they perfect historically? Probably not, but I didn't want an exact replication of history anyway.

[RoyalsBlue]

Going to post a few screenshots of assorted players that are in the HOF in my replay.




Wade's career came to an abrupt stop in the 95 season with a career ending back injury, but his numbers were so good prior to this that he still made the HOF

[SittingDuck]

Great thread.

I find it interesting that you used fictional pics for historical players. Kinda cool.

I am guessing you turned player development OFF?

[RoyalsBlue]

Originally Posted by SittingDuck

Great thread.

I find it interesting that you used fictional pics for historical players. Kinda cool.

I am guessing you turned player development OFF?

Thanks for reading, SittingDuck, glad you like it so far. Actually, I left player development on, but with the 3 year recalc on, I think that took precedence. Somebody who's more familiar with the inner workings could probably tell us for sure, but that's my hypothesis.

As far as the pictures go, I was just too lazy to dl any for this replay. Figured it would be better to just go with FaceGen.