ID Differences?

BeachBum · 07-26-2008, 11:50 PM

What is the difference between the "Historical Team ID" and "Historical Franchise ID"? What is each used for?

Spritze · 07-27-2008, 12:45 AM

Example: Dodgers

"Historical Team ID" = Brooklyn until 1958 Los Angeles after

"Historical Franchise ID" = All incarnations of the Dodger franchise irregardless of the team name used (Dodgers, Robins etc), city played in (as noted) or number of italian dunderheads in the dugout (Lasorda).

BeachBum · 07-27-2008, 01:01 AM

So rookies will be assigned to the Historical ID (assuming no draft) but stats will be kept under the Historical Franchise ID?

Spritze · 07-27-2008, 12:00 PM

It is just a lump thing.....

Seasonal Stuff gets lumped together by Team ID

Team History stuff gets lumped together by Fanchise ID

League History stuff gets lumped together by League ID

Jah · 07-27-2008, 05:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spritze

or number of italian dunderheads in the dugout (Lasorda).

Was it really necessary to say this? As an Italian, I certainly don't appreciate it.

plannine · 07-27-2008, 06:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jah

Was it really necessary to say this? As an Italian, I certainly don't appreciate it.

As long as your not in the dugout, it's not directed at every Italian.

Jah · 07-27-2008, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by plannine

As long as your not in the dugout, it's not directed at every Italian.

Still no reason to say it...if someone thinks he's a dunderhead, his nationality is irrelevant.

What if he was another nationality...would the following sentence be okay??

"...or number of (Mexican/German/Irish/Japanese/Chinese) dunderheads in the dugout."

Greatgrampa · 07-27-2008, 09:49 PM

I think it would be best if this thread were dropped from here on out. No need to get into this kind of nationality thing. There are dunderheads with all nationalities. One isn't born a dunderhead...you just become one. I know, I am Scottish and French and English and I am one so I acquired it myself over the years.

Anyway, let's not get into this kind of thing here in the forum. It does no one any good and makes new people who see this, wonder what kind of place this is! Agreed? I don't think we want that.

AZTarHeel · 07-27-2008, 11:22 PM

Getting back to topic, what should you do if you're starting a historical dynasty in the 1870s and you want to use real players but fictional teams?

Should I change the historical ID and franchise ID things? I'm still a bit confused (but not dunderheaded) about what these tags do. Thanks...

AZ

Spritze · 07-29-2008, 12:11 AM

You can't change things until 1901.

1871 thru 1900 teams are coded into the game and you cannot change them. Any changes you make at the major league level will revert to the coded names every time your year progresses.

After 1900 you may change things to suit your tastes.

Simon_Nesbit · 07-29-2008, 06:37 AM

Aw crap. Does it change on the calender year? (ie 1-1) or at some other time?

Simon_Nesbit · 07-29-2008, 06:39 AM

If I rename files at 1-1, then sim upto/through the season, players will be auto-allocated to their proper teams? (no draft, historical players)

Spritze · 07-29-2008, 01:57 PM

Nope

Simon_Nesbit · 07-29-2008, 10:18 PM

So no way of auto-allocating players with different teams. What if the ID's matched? Frustrating, but I could live with that.

Spritze · 07-29-2008, 11:54 PM

No way.

It is all a draft, everyone in the pool.

Draft by hand to get people where you want them.

No auto-about it.

Simon_Nesbit · 07-30-2008, 03:41 AM

So without a draft they just go straight to FA?

without a FA period (ala 6.5), is there an advantage over computer for me to bid on them?

Spritze · 07-30-2008, 09:45 PM

straight to FA.

You can just assign them to a team from the player profile main page. No bidding necessary.

bogieman · 07-31-2008, 11:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Spritze

You can't change things until 1901.

1871 thru 1900 teams are coded into the game and you cannot change them. Any changes you make at the major league level will revert to the coded names every time your year progresses.

After 1900 you may change things to suit your tastes.

This only true if you have Automatically expand league checked. Teams will not change from year to year if that option is not checked.

I play with the actual historical teams. I add and delete teams each year not because the game changed back to the defaults but because of the actual league structure changed. I delete the teams from the league in December during the winter meetings and add the new teams January 1st. I make sure that the teams have the correct franchise id before the rookies are imported on January 15th. At that time all the rookies end up on the correct teams. If the team's franchise id is incorrect the player will show up as a free agent. If that happens then I will just edit the player profile and add him to the correct team and fix the team's franchise id.

07-26-2008, 11:50 PM	#1 (permalink)
BeachBum Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2007 Location: Copalis Beach, WA Posts: 186 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	ID Differences? What is the difference between the "Historical Team ID" and "Historical Franchise ID"? What is each used for?

07-27-2008, 09:49 PM	#8 (permalink)
Greatgrampa Major Leagues Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: Bristol, VA Posts: 305 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	I think it would be best if this thread were dropped from here on out. No need to get into this kind of nationality thing. There are dunderheads with all nationalities. One isn't born a dunderhead...you just become one. I know, I am Scottish and French and English and I am one so I acquired it myself over the years. Anyway, let's not get into this kind of thing here in the forum. It does no one any good and makes new people who see this, wonder what kind of place this is! Agreed? I don't think we want that. __________________ "Hitting is timing. Pitching is upsetting timing." Warren Spahn

07-27-2008, 11:22 PM	#9 (permalink)
AZTarHeel All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: North Carolina Posts: 1,488 Thanks: 9 Thanked 9x in 8 posts	Getting back to topic, what should you do if you're starting a historical dynasty in the 1870s and you want to use real players but fictional teams? Should I change the historical ID and franchise ID things? I'm still a bit confused (but not dunderheaded) about what these tags do. Thanks... AZ __________________ AzTarHeel's dynasty works: The Arizona League 3.0: Historical players in the Grand Canyon state Tall Tales: The Andrew Zarzour Story Baseball In The Tar Heel State: A Fictional Experience Win At All Costs: The 2004 Boston Red Sox The Arizona League: Real Players. Fictional Teams

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07-27-2008, 12:45 AM	#2 (permalink)
Spritze Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Redmond Wa and Cape Coast Ghana Posts: 2,946 Thanks: 16 Thanked 344x in 242 posts	Example: Dodgers "Historical Team ID" = Brooklyn until 1958 Los Angeles after "Historical Franchise ID" = All incarnations of the Dodger franchise irregardless of the team name used (Dodgers, Robins etc), city played in (as noted) or number of italian dunderheads in the dugout (Lasorda).

07-27-2008, 01:01 AM	#3 (permalink)
BeachBum Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2007 Location: Copalis Beach, WA Posts: 186 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	So rookies will be assigned to the Historical ID (assuming no draft) but stats will be kept under the Historical Franchise ID?

07-27-2008, 12:00 PM	#4 (permalink)
Spritze Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Redmond Wa and Cape Coast Ghana Posts: 2,946 Thanks: 16 Thanked 344x in 242 posts	It is just a lump thing..... Seasonal Stuff gets lumped together by Team ID Team History stuff gets lumped together by Fanchise ID League History stuff gets lumped together by League ID

07-29-2008, 12:11 AM	#10 (permalink)
Spritze Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Redmond Wa and Cape Coast Ghana Posts: 2,946 Thanks: 16 Thanked 344x in 242 posts	You can't change things until 1901. 1871 thru 1900 teams are coded into the game and you cannot change them. Any changes you make at the major league level will revert to the coded names every time your year progresses. After 1900 you may change things to suit your tastes.

07-29-2008, 06:37 AM	#11 (permalink)
Simon_Nesbit Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 254 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9x in 9 posts	Aw crap. Does it change on the calender year? (ie 1-1) or at some other time?

07-29-2008, 06:39 AM	#12 (permalink)
Simon_Nesbit Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 254 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9x in 9 posts	If I rename files at 1-1, then sim upto/through the season, players will be auto-allocated to their proper teams? (no draft, historical players)

07-29-2008, 01:57 PM	#13 (permalink)
Spritze Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Redmond Wa and Cape Coast Ghana Posts: 2,946 Thanks: 16 Thanked 344x in 242 posts	Nope

07-29-2008, 10:18 PM	#14 (permalink)
Simon_Nesbit Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 254 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9x in 9 posts	So no way of auto-allocating players with different teams. What if the ID's matched? Frustrating, but I could live with that.

07-29-2008, 11:54 PM	#15 (permalink)
Spritze Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Redmond Wa and Cape Coast Ghana Posts: 2,946 Thanks: 16 Thanked 344x in 242 posts	No way. It is all a draft, everyone in the pool. Draft by hand to get people where you want them. No auto-about it.

07-30-2008, 03:41 AM	#16 (permalink)
Simon_Nesbit Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 254 Thanks: 0 Thanked 9x in 9 posts	So without a draft they just go straight to FA? without a FA period (ala 6.5), is there an advantage over computer for me to bid on them?

07-30-2008, 09:45 PM	#17 (permalink)
Spritze Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Redmond Wa and Cape Coast Ghana Posts: 2,946 Thanks: 16 Thanked 344x in 242 posts	straight to FA. You can just assign them to a team from the player profile main page. No bidding necessary.