BZ 3380: Ethnicities/nations/facegen not working as designed

Dogzilla · 06-20-2009, 01:25 PM

The way the game is designed to determine what type of face it will generate with facegen is not working the way it was intended (according to the manual). I'll explain.

When a player is created, he has a nation of origin based on the league settings/nations file. Also in the nations file, it will determine his name set. Lets say, in an MLB league, we have generated a Dominican player with a Spanish name.
Facegen will create a picture base on the line for set 1 in the ethnicities.txt file. Here's mine:
1,Spanish,100,10,10,480,400,
So far so good.
However, there is also facegen/ethnicity data in the nation.txt file, on the far right of the line. This is supposed to be used (as I understand it) when there is no data in the ethnicities.txt file. So if I changed the above line to this:
1,Spanish,,,,,,
then facegen should use this line (in nations.txt) to determine the face type:
56,Dominican Republic,Dominican,DOM,Dominican Republic,4,4,1,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,880,0,20,0,100
Which would yield quite different (and more accurate) results.
It's a nice system, but it doesn't work. The game will NEVER use the ethnicity data in the nations file, ever. If it can't find data in the ethnicities.txt file (like this: 1,Spanish,,,,,,) it will make every face caucasian.
This is an old issue going back at least to OOTP 9 maybe earlier. I'd just like to see it patched to have it work the way it was designed, which is a good design.

Kemp · 06-26-2009, 06:47 AM

So you're saying OOTP10 uses ethnicities from the "ethnicities.txt" file? I'm trying to tweak mine but I'm rather confused about which values the game uses!

battists · 06-30-2009, 07:16 PM

Dogzilla,

Thanks for your post, and sorry for the delay in getting back to you. The first few weeks after the release are always pretty busy around here!

I appreciate your detailed post. I've logged this as BZ 3380, and I'll ask Andreas to take a look at it and figure out whether it's a bug, or whether I've just improperly documented how it's supposed to work. From your description, I suspect the former, but we'll see what Andreas has to say about it!

Thanks,

Steve

06-20-2009, 01:25 PM	#1 (permalink)
Dogzilla Major Leagues Join Date: May 2004 Location: Colorado USA Posts: 322 Thanked 5x in 5 posts	BZ 3380: Ethnicities/nations/facegen not working as designed The way the game is designed to determine what type of face it will generate with facegen is not working the way it was intended (according to the manual). I'll explain. When a player is created, he has a nation of origin based on the league settings/nations file. Also in the nations file, it will determine his name set. Lets say, in an MLB league, we have generated a Dominican player with a Spanish name. Facegen will create a picture base on the line for set 1 in the ethnicities.txt file. Here's mine: 1,Spanish,100,10,10,480,400, So far so good. However, there is also facegen/ethnicity data in the nation.txt file, on the far right of the line. This is supposed to be used (as I understand it) when there is no data in the ethnicities.txt file. So if I changed the above line to this: 1,Spanish,,,,,, then facegen should use this line (in nations.txt) to determine the face type: 56,Dominican Republic,Dominican,DOM,Dominican Republic,4,4,1,100,0,0,0,0,0,0,880,0,20,0,100 Which would yield quite different (and more accurate) results. It's a nice system, but it doesn't work. The game will NEVER use the ethnicity data in the nations file, ever. If it can't find data in the ethnicities.txt file (like this: 1,Spanish,,,,,,) it will make every face caucasian. This is an old issue going back at least to OOTP 9 maybe earlier. I'd just like to see it patched to have it work the way it was designed, which is a good design.

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06-26-2009, 06:47 AM	#2 (permalink)
Kemp All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,178 Thanked 12x in 4 posts	So you're saying OOTP10 uses ethnicities from the "ethnicities.txt" file? I'm trying to tweak mine but I'm rather confused about which values the game uses!

06-30-2009, 07:16 PM	#3 (permalink)
battists OOTP Developments Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 17,024 Blog Entries: 7 Thanked 703x in 194 posts	Dogzilla, Thanks for your post, and sorry for the delay in getting back to you. The first few weeks after the release are always pretty busy around here! I appreciate your detailed post. I've logged this as BZ 3380, and I'll ask Andreas to take a look at it and figure out whether it's a bug, or whether I've just improperly documented how it's supposed to work. From your description, I suspect the former, but we'll see what Andreas has to say about it! Thanks, Steve