BZ 3406: Injury replacement in pbp

beorn · 06-25-2009, 06:46 PM

When a fielder is injured on a play that results in the 3rd out, there should be no need for the team to place a new player in the lineup until either a) that position in the lineup comes to bat, or b) the team returns to the field

Puckett guy · 06-25-2009, 10:04 PM

I just reported the same problem yesterday.

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ding-play.html

endgame · 07-06-2009, 09:40 PM

I logged this as BZ #3406 with comment as follows:

In version 9, I believe, this was addressed and either marked LATER, WONTFIX, was treated as a feature request, or there was a response that it could not be fixed, but the point is valid and needs reconsideration.

From the thread:

"When a fielder is injured on a play that results in the 3rd out, there should be no need for the team to place a new player in the lineup until either a) that position in the lineup comes to bat, or b) the team returns to the field"

This if further complicated when the player you are forced to substitute fails to ever actually take the field, e.g. being PH for himself before the next AB, or in some rare cases - when a MR is inserted in pitching slot - the MR may be credited with an appearance even though he did not make one (again, if a PH is utilized prior to his AB). I'm not convinced this issue is not also related to the "phantom" substitution thread in which players are listed in pbp or in the boxscores, but absent from the gamelog.

06-25-2009, 06:46 PM	#1 (permalink)
beorn All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: near Rochester, NY Posts: 953 Thanks: 18 Thanked 39x in 26 posts	BZ 3406: Injury replacement in pbp When a fielder is injured on a play that results in the 3rd out, there should be no need for the team to place a new player in the lineup until either a) that position in the lineup comes to bat, or b) the team returns to the field __________________ Commish of Dog Days Baseball Commish, GM PCBL Toronto Dogs GM NUEBL Texas Rangers GM MLBD Detroit Tigers GM CBU 2.0 Vermont Greens GM Asahi2 Chicago Cubs

06-25-2009, 10:04 PM	#2 (permalink)
Puckett guy Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Near Lake Wobegone Posts: 269 Thanks: 18 Thanked 36x in 14 posts	I just reported the same problem yesterday. http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...ding-play.html __________________ "...and we'll see you tomorrow night!" - Jack Buck, October 26, 1991, HHH Metrodome, Mpls, MN Last edited by Puckett guy; 06-25-2009 at 10:05 PM.

07-06-2009, 09:40 PM	#3 (permalink)
endgame Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 10,771 Thanks: 894 Thanked 756x in 429 posts	I logged this as BZ #3406 with comment as follows: In version 9, I believe, this was addressed and either marked LATER, WONTFIX, was treated as a feature request, or there was a response that it could not be fixed, but the point is valid and needs reconsideration. From the thread: "When a fielder is injured on a play that results in the 3rd out, there should be no need for the team to place a new player in the lineup until either a) that position in the lineup comes to bat, or b) the team returns to the field" This if further complicated when the player you are forced to substitute fails to ever actually take the field, e.g. being PH for himself before the next AB, or in some rare cases - when a MR is inserted in pitching slot - the MR may be credited with an appearance even though he did not make one (again, if a PH is utilized prior to his AB). I'm not convinced this issue is not also related to the "phantom" substitution thread in which players are listed in pbp or in the boxscores, but absent from the gamelog. __________________ "Try again. Fail again. Fail better." -- Samuel Beckett _____________________________________________

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