Intangibles from 6.5 still around?

satchel · 09-17-2008, 11:08 AM

Do the three old intangibles from v6.5, Consistency, Clutch performance, and Injury rating, carry over into v9 in any form? I know that the newer versions have a new set of intangibles such as Greed, Intelligence, etc., but are the old three from v6.5 preserved?

satchel · 09-17-2008, 10:17 PM

Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I can tell, those three intangibles, Consistency, Clutch performance, and Injury rating from v6.5 don't exist in v9.

chimanbj · 09-23-2008, 01:41 PM

No one will correct you.

satchel · 09-23-2008, 04:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by chimanbj

No one will correct you.

I hope that means I'm not wrong.

kq76 · 09-24-2008, 03:15 AM

As you can see on the player editor page (in commissioner mode), the injury rating is now broken down into several injury ratings. You cannot see it otherwise however.

Clutch is unfortunately gone as far as I know. Maybe it is hidden, but I doubt it. Real effect or not, the perceived effect added to the game.

Consistency is also gone, I believe, but I feel as though intelligence and work ethic take its place in what it used to do. I don't know if they have nearly as much effect (on dev), but if they don't that's probably a good thing. "Consistency" was an awkward rating anyway. Does it really matter if a player is consistent or not if at the end of the season they have the same stats? Intelligence and work ethic have much more meaningful understandings.

Reading the OOTP2007 manual I think one could argue that clutch has been replaced with intelligence ("... influence in game decisions...") and consistency with work ethic ("... positive effect on ... slump management..."), but that these new intangibles are more important as they come into play in more than just those limited circumstances as the full description details.

Tony M · 09-24-2008, 03:34 AM

This is something that's never been answered by Markus, but in the player file there are some 'ratings' mixed in between all the current personality values, so unless Markus threw together the file all higgledy-piggledy there are probably between 3 to 7 hidden personality ratings.

Of course I might be wrong, but nobody has ever denied these values are used.

satchel · 09-24-2008, 01:09 PM

Thanks very much for the input, fellows.

Although I commish an online league, I've still never used the editor much. I'd never noticed injury factors.

09-17-2008, 11:08 AM	#1 (permalink)
satchel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Ft Smith AR Posts: 2,680 Thanks: 52 Thanked 48x in 26 posts	Intangibles from 6.5 still around? Do the three old intangibles from v6.5, Consistency, Clutch performance, and Injury rating, carry over into v9 in any form? I know that the newer versions have a new set of intangibles such as Greed, Intelligence, etc., but are the old three from v6.5 preserved? __________________ JL Commish NPBL Rhode Island Reds ’33 ’34 ’35 TCBA San Francisco Railbornes ’74 ’76 ’77 ’78 FL New Orleans Black Sox ’56 ’57 ’58 ’59 IOLD

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chimanbj All Star Reserve Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 758 Thanks: 4 Thanked 2x in 2 posts	No one will correct you. __________________ People ask if I'm a Cubs or White Sox fan...I tell them, proudly, I'm a Phillies Phan!

09-24-2008, 03:15 AM	#5 (permalink)
kq76 Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Vancouver Posts: 7,623 Thanks: 281 Thanked 332x in 190 posts	As you can see on the player editor page (in commissioner mode), the injury rating is now broken down into several injury ratings. You cannot see it otherwise however. Clutch is unfortunately gone as far as I know. Maybe it is hidden, but I doubt it. Real effect or not, the perceived effect added to the game. Consistency is also gone, I believe, but I feel as though intelligence and work ethic take its place in what it used to do. I don't know if they have nearly as much effect (on dev), but if they don't that's probably a good thing. "Consistency" was an awkward rating anyway. Does it really matter if a player is consistent or not if at the end of the season they have the same stats? Intelligence and work ethic have much more meaningful understandings. Reading the OOTP2007 manual I think one could argue that clutch has been replaced with intelligence ("... influence in game decisions...") and consistency with work ethic ("... positive effect on ... slump management..."), but that these new intangibles are more important as they come into play in more than just those limited circumstances as the full description details. __________________ Useful Links: Manuals \| Downloads \| Newsletters \| Knowledge Base \| New Tech Support \| Updated Forum Rules Interactive Online League Directory - find or advertise a league today! Canadian Baseball League - uses OOTP11, running steadily since April 2002

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Tony M Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Here Posts: 6,113 Blog Entries: 3 Thanks: 38 Thanked 309x in 179 posts	This is something that's never been answered by Markus, but in the player file there are some 'ratings' mixed in between all the current personality values, so unless Markus threw together the file all higgledy-piggledy there are probably between 3 to 7 hidden personality ratings. Of course I might be wrong, but nobody has ever denied these values are used. __________________ This signature is intentionally blank

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09-17-2008, 10:17 PM	#2 (permalink)
satchel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Ft Smith AR Posts: 2,680 Thanks: 52 Thanked 48x in 26 posts	Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but as far as I can tell, those three intangibles, Consistency, Clutch performance, and Injury rating from v6.5 don't exist in v9.

09-24-2008, 01:09 PM	#7 (permalink)
satchel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Ft Smith AR Posts: 2,680 Thanks: 52 Thanked 48x in 26 posts	Thanks very much for the input, fellows. Although I commish an online league, I've still never used the editor much. I'd never noticed injury factors.