major leaguers will not learn positions?

Mortimer · 03-17-2009, 03:01 PM

when I first started playing I just did a game as a coach of a minor league team and often would put a guy in a new postion and every game or 2 they would gain a point in that position for the first few starts.

around a week ago I started with 1910 rosters and rules, but player development and historical rookies are off. I also have another league for minors but it is not connected to the major league. I was looking to learn more of the GM role without all the minor leaguers.

the thing is one of my players was a second basmen with good hitting and fielding stats but no skill at a position. I am a month into the season and the guy played in spring training and all but 3 or 4 games in the regular season at 2nd base, but has not gained 1 point in second base.

Is this a problem? or is the scout just not doing his job? the guy is not making many errors or anything, just does not seem to be learning.

thanks for any help

Irishray · 03-17-2009, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Mortimer

when I first started playing I just did a game as a coach of a minor league team and often would put a guy in a new postion and every game or 2 they would gain a point in that position for the first few starts.

around a week ago I started with 1910 rosters and rules, but player development and historical rookies are off. I also have another league for minors but it is not connected to the major league. I was looking to learn more of the GM role without all the minor leaguers.

the thing is one of my players was a second basmen with good hitting and fielding stats but no skill at a position. I am a month into the season and the guy played in spring training and all but 3 or 4 games in the regular season at 2nd base, but has not gained 1 point in second base.

Is this a problem? or is the scout just not doing his job? the guy is not making many errors or anything, just does not seem to be learning.

thanks for any help

Depends -- I don't have the chart in front of me, but somewhere in these forums, it is presented. Basically, a player has to have a certain level of talent in certain areas to even be eligible to gain experience at a certain position. It is position-based. Could be your player did not meet the minimum criteria to become a second baseman.

It has nothing to do with a position change. He could play for years and never gain if the minimum levels are not there to begin with.

Someone can correct me where I misspoke.

Ray

Mortimer · 03-17-2009, 09:45 PM

that might be the reason his range and error are 25 and he has a 17 arm (with 1-100)

oddlly his stats are good considering, he has a .954 fielding percentage and a 5.41 range. not great but good enough for a good hitter in a no DH world

satchel · 03-18-2009, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Mortimer

that might be the reason his range and error are 25 and he has a 17 arm (with 1-100)

Those numbers sound like they might be below the cutoff. But if he's playing alright, that's a good sign. How much experience does he have there so far, in games played? (It's measured in innings played, really, but I assume he's playing out whole games at the position.)

It's going to take a guy probably close to a whole season to learn to play 2B at the major-league level.

satchel · 03-18-2009, 04:52 PM

Didn't see the detail in your original post, that you were a month into the season.

I'd give him two or three months. Are you checking his ratings in the editor, and looking at the absolute values, or just checking his externally-displayed rating? It's going to take two-to-three months for an official rating to appear.

TribeFanInNC · 03-18-2009, 05:18 PM

Is he older?

I know in v2007, I've played several years with Johnny Temple at 2B with no rating while in his 30s and got similar numbers as you've shown. He was an All-Star in his heyday, but by then the game gave him no defensive rating.

If he's playing OK, then I wouldn't sweat it too much. If he starts kicking around 3 balls a week, then start worrying.

szathkey · 06-22-2009, 12:38 AM

I am having the same problem...my guys just aren't accruing any experience at positions I am playing them at.

Recalc is off, so there isn't anything going on there.

Any help would be much appreciated

adamj · 06-22-2009, 09:46 PM

The OP said player development is off. Would that prevent players from increasing their fielding ratings?

szathkey · 06-22-2009, 10:14 PM

My player development is definitely on

03-17-2009, 03:01 PM	#1 (permalink)
Mortimer Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 181 Thanks: 31 Thanked 23x in 16 posts	major leaguers will not learn positions? when I first started playing I just did a game as a coach of a minor league team and often would put a guy in a new postion and every game or 2 they would gain a point in that position for the first few starts. around a week ago I started with 1910 rosters and rules, but player development and historical rookies are off. I also have another league for minors but it is not connected to the major league. I was looking to learn more of the GM role without all the minor leaguers. the thing is one of my players was a second basmen with good hitting and fielding stats but no skill at a position. I am a month into the season and the guy played in spring training and all but 3 or 4 games in the regular season at 2nd base, but has not gained 1 point in second base. Is this a problem? or is the scout just not doing his job? the guy is not making many errors or anything, just does not seem to be learning. thanks for any help

03-18-2009, 05:18 PM	#6 (permalink)
TribeFanInNC Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2007 Posts: 2,532 Thanks: 94 Thanked 268x in 209 posts	Is he older? I know in v2007, I've played several years with Johnny Temple at 2B with no rating while in his 30s and got similar numbers as you've shown. He was an All-Star in his heyday, but by then the game gave him no defensive rating. If he's playing OK, then I wouldn't sweat it too much. If he starts kicking around 3 balls a week, then start worrying. __________________ PEBA - Duluth Warriors

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03-17-2009, 09:45 PM	#3 (permalink)
Mortimer Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Kansas City, MO Posts: 181 Thanks: 31 Thanked 23x in 16 posts	that might be the reason his range and error are 25 and he has a 17 arm (with 1-100) oddlly his stats are good considering, he has a .954 fielding percentage and a 5.41 range. not great but good enough for a good hitter in a no DH world

03-18-2009, 04:52 PM	#5 (permalink)
satchel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Ft Smith AR Posts: 2,680 Thanks: 52 Thanked 48x in 26 posts	Didn't see the detail in your original post, that you were a month into the season. I'd give him two or three months. Are you checking his ratings in the editor, and looking at the absolute values, or just checking his externally-displayed rating? It's going to take two-to-three months for an official rating to appear.

06-22-2009, 12:38 AM	#7 (permalink)
szathkey Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 80 Thanks: 17 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	I am having the same problem...my guys just aren't accruing any experience at positions I am playing them at. Recalc is off, so there isn't anything going on there. Any help would be much appreciated

06-22-2009, 09:46 PM	#8 (permalink)
adamj Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 49 Thanks: 0 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	The OP said player development is off. Would that prevent players from increasing their fielding ratings?

06-22-2009, 10:14 PM	#9 (permalink)
szathkey Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jun 2008 Posts: 80 Thanks: 17 Thanked 0x in 0 posts	My player development is definitely on