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Old 06-16-2013, 11:44 AM   #1 (permalink)
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"International Complex" What is your strategy?

Hello... Happy Fathers day... I am an avid OOTP player who is really enjoying the new game. I play OOTP as the General Manager with full coaching and scouting turned on.

I am asking this community about the new international complex and what are your thoughts. When do you promote a player? When they turn 20? When they show some potential? When they show lots of potential?

Does anyone know what kind of coaching the international league gets?

Just looking or your thoughts.

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Old 06-16-2013, 01:04 PM   #2 (permalink)
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I promote players to my rookie league when their ratings are comparable to other rookie league players (only if the international player has potential).
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I think it will take a few years to actually settle on a strategy. I don't know what works with any confidence. Obviously, it's a diamond in the rough terrain, so if a player with a fair amount of potential overall manages to hold on to that potential after a year in the complex, I've moved him into the rookie league to see what real playing time achieves. I 'may' try this with a IC player who possesses a high work ethic, but no high potential just to see if the coaching staff and playing time can have any effect. But overall, I am not expecting more than good utility progression from this level. If a star emerges, I'll be pleasantly surprised.
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I think it will take a few years to actually settle on a strategy. I don't know what works with any confidence. Obviously, it's a diamond in the rough terrain, so if a player with a fair amount of potential overall manages to hold on to that potential after a year in the complex, I've moved him into the rookie league to see what real playing time achieves. I 'may' try this with a IC player who possesses a high work ethic, but no high potential just to see if the coaching staff and playing time can have any effect. But overall, I am not expecting more than good utility progression from this level. If a star emerges, I'll be pleasantly surprised.
I'm about 10 years into a game that I started when the last patch released (I'm most a simmer).

I've had fairly mixed strategies, usually I follow one of two patterns:
1) A player's ratings are consistent with players in the rookie leagues.
2) I've got a shortage of players at a position and the player's ratings aren't embarrassing.

I've had one extraordinary international complex success thus far-- because of several cascading injuries in my minors, he ended up catching at Single A at 17, in the majors at 20. Midway through his third season, he seems to be tapping his potential, on track for a .300/30 HR year.

I've got a relief pitcher who I started in rookie ball as an 18 year old whose been a mainstay in my bullpen for a couple or three seasons.

I've got a starter who spent 5 years in the minors, starting at rookie ball, and worked his way through to earn my #5 starter spot. My scout seems to think he's an ace in the making ,but his minor league career hasn't shown any dominance.

I've got outfielder I paid $$$ for who I aggressively moved through my system. He dominated at every level, but when he reached AA, injuries started piling up that seem to have diminished his speed a great deal, forcing him to a corner position. As a 22 year old, he was crushing it in AAA and was still viewed as a top prospect, but was blocked by an excellent starting outfield with a soon-to-be free agent. He suffered a major injury and missed the remainder of the year. He made my opening day roster as a fourth outfielder and is having a solid season.

Other than that, it's been a lot of nobodies. A bunch of pitchers who performed well in the minors but couldn't execute in the majors, a reserve right side infielder, and a few guys who have filled in successfully when called up.
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Not much experience myself, but I'm now in the 2016 season as the M's GM. I've only manually placed 1 guy into rookie ball from the IC. He was 19, a pitcher, and had a decent ceiling.

But most of all, he was smart and worked hard. That's the ticket for me. If I see intelligence and work ethic ratings as high or very high, I'll send him into my professional ranks sooner, even if he doesn't have the other ratings to stand on. It's because I'm more prone to keep smart, hard working kids around than lazy morons. Lazy morons can't be coached very well.
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So I finally broke down and bought OOTP14. Do the international complex players generate any sort of stats? If so, when do they start playing "games". IRL, the international leagues start up around the same time the rookie leagues do, but I haven't seen any of my players with any stats yet.

I play with potential only in my solo league so I'm wondering how I'll ever know when to move a guy up.
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So I finally broke down and bought OOTP14. Do the international complex players generate any sort of stats? If so, when do they start playing "games". IRL, the international leagues start up around the same time the rookie leagues do, but I haven't seen any of my players with any stats yet.

I play with potential only in my solo league so I'm wondering how I'll ever know when to move a guy up.
International players don't accumulate stats. The way I've gone about it is that I use the scouting reports. If the report says he's supposed to be a star, I'll move him up at 18, starting at rookie ball. If not, I generally wait until he's 20...starting him off at rookie or (more likely) Short Season A.
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I usually leave guys in there until they hit 20 or their ratings are even with players at some level of minors. The exception is new in-season signings stay in the complex until the next season.
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