Your opinions on a Relocation and Expansion cities

[Padreman]

So I will starting a new MLB game, I have never been
A fan of multiple teams in one city so I will relocate two teams and I will expand by two to have 16 team leagues.
So your thoughts should I relocate the Mets or the Yankees? Why and where?
The Cubs or the White Sox? Why and where?
Think to Which teams mean more to the city? History?
What two new cities for expansion? Remember I want to keep the division even. I don't want to be all four teams in the east coast. And what nicknames for these teams?

Also you may wonder about Los Angeles. Well since the Angels don't actually play in Los Angeles or in the county of Los Angeles I will renamed them the Anaheim Angels.

[LondonYankee]

The Yankees have been in New York since 1903 and are the winningest team in baseball. The Mets have been there since 1962 and have two whole World Series wins. Not a tough choice. Bye bye Mets.

[Fyrestorm3]

If you are even considering relocating the Yankees, you're insane. Mets for sure on that one, even though that's also a very stalwart fanbase.

You could make a relocation case for the Cubs based on their history of underachieving, but that's a team with some serious history and tradition (I mean, Wrigley Field, come on). Again, if you're determined to move one, it should be the White Sox.

A simple solution for new cities would be Montreal. Bring back the Expos, or change the name to whatever you see fit. The Carolinas might also be due for a team. Or Nashville. That would be the Mets relocation, so that the East stays intact.

As for the White Sox, I would suggest relocating them to the west coast. Portland or Vancouver are both markets that could use a baseball team. If you do that, you can move Texas or Houston to the AL Central to keep the divisions aligned.

Then, for expansion, pick two of the cities that you didn't use (Vancouver/Portland, and Montreal/Charlotte/Nashville). You can't have even divisions with 16 teams, though - one's going to have an extra.

[Padreman]

Originally Posted by LondonYankee

The Yankees have been in New York since 1903 and are the winningest team in baseball. The Mets have been there since 1962 and have two whole World Series wins. Not a tough choice. Bye bye Mets.

My guy tells me the Mets too

[Padreman]

I notice a lot of the same cities mentioned in other threads but does not the NFL function well in Indianapolis and Buffalo?

[Craig Scarborough]

Originally Posted by Padreman

I notice a lot of the same cities mentioned in other threads but does not the NFL faction well in Indianapolis and Buffalo?

Different revenue model - in the NFL all teams grab a share of the overall TV contract whereas MLB teams make a lot of money off of their local cable contract. Therefore a football team in Buffalo or Indianapolis is much more viable than a baseball team (not to say it wouldn't work, there are other factors involved).

[DreamTeams]

Here are a few ideas...

Move he White Sox to Indianapolis. (Indianapolis White Sox)

Move the Mets to Brooklyn or Charlotte. (Brooklyn Mets / Charlotte Mets)

[Padreman]

Originally Posted by DreamTeams

Here are a few ideas...

Move he White Sox to Indianapolis. (Indianapolis White Sox)

Move the Mets to Brooklyn or Charlotte. (Brooklyn Mets / Charlotte Mets)

Indiapolis White Sox and Charlotte Mets would be good but I don't think Metropolitans would be a good nickname for a middle of the pack (population) city like Charlotte

[DreamTeams]

Interesting. However, Charlotte is #17 on 2012 U.S. top 50 cities population chart. Was trying to keep each team close to it's current market. Perhaps switch them around...

Indianapolis Mets
Charlotte White Sox

Both sound good, too.

Perhaps for a city in the millions population with no current team the Mets could be moved to Dallas...

Dallas Mets (#9 on the chart, pop. 1,241,162)

[The Game]

Originally Posted by Padreman

So I will starting a new MLB game, I have never been
A fan of multiple teams in one city so I will relocate two teams and I will expand by two to have 16 team leagues.
So your thoughts should I relocate the Mets or the Yankees? Why and where?
The Cubs or the White Sox? Why and where?
Think to Which teams mean more to the city? History?
What two new cities for expansion? Remember I want to keep the division even. I don't want to be all four teams in the east coast. And what nicknames for these teams?

Also you may wonder about Los Angeles. Well since the Angels don't actually play in Los Angeles or in the county of Los Angeles I will renamed them the Anaheim Angels.

I do this in 2041. Now my league goes from 32 down to 20. My ABF is the base for this.
AL top 4 make playoffs
1. NY Knights (Mets & Yankees Polo Grounds)
2. Boston Fightin' Irish
3. Toronto Blue Jays
4. Philadelphia Liberty (Phillies & Pirates, Citizen Bank)
5. Chicago Fire (Sox & Cubs, play in Wrigley)
6. LA Angels (Dodgers & Angels, The Big A)
7. San Jose Sharks (A's & Giants, custom park)
8. Detroit Diesel
9. Cleveland Rockers (Indians & Reds)
10. Seattle Pilots (was Moose til Tex made great uniforms)

NL
1. Atlanta Rebels
2. Texas Rangers
3. Houston Colt .45's
4. San Antonio Mustangs (Twins & Brewers)
5. Las Vegas Aces
6. San Diego Seals
7. Washington Eagles (Nats & O's)
8. St Louis Royals (Cardinals & Royals) (I think Justafan or CJ has uni)
9. New Orleans Voodoo (Marlins & Rays)
10. Phoenix Coyotes

Now as far as your league The White (Sox) Stockings name is older then the Cubs name but I would keep the Cubs. Yankees or rename to Giants. Rename A's and Giants to Seals keep in SF. Marlins keep in Miami. Cardinals of course. Pirates but move to Philly or rename to Athletics. Texas Rangers. Keep a team in DC get rid of O's. You said you are keeping Anaheim. expansion OKC and LV.

[The Game]

Originally Posted by DreamTeams

Here are a few ideas...

Move he White Sox to Indianapolis. (Indianapolis White Sox)

Move the Mets to Brooklyn or Charlotte. (Brooklyn Mets / Charlotte Mets)

Rename the White Sox the 500's or Steelers.

[The Game]

Padre a little history for what I plan on doing in 2041. Since 2003 the EBL & the CBF have been growing and growing. The CBF is on the galaxies largest most populated planet and Earth has had a 25% drop in population since they found out they are not alone. Coruscant has taken most of that population. The EBL's #1 goal was top be better then MLB. In 2025 they finally achieved that. In 2041 they expanded to 32 teams. In 2038 MLB announced that they would be contracting teams to start the 2041 season and that all active MLB players would go into a Fantasy draft. Only state that did not suffer a drop in population was Texas. They would keep both the Rangers and a team in Houston (Astros moved to OKC in 2030) and that they would be given an additional team in San Antonio. New Orleans has become the jewel of the south and would be given a team which is a combo of the Rays & Marlins. No other city will have more then one team. It is up to the fans to decide what the team name should be. As far as the White Sox vs Cubs. Since I am a Sox fan and majority owner of the new team in combination with the Ricketts family (Cubs) and Malia Obama (Barack died in 2035) (Sox) I decided to get rid of both teams. The Fire based of of the old MLS team and the most historic event in Chicago history would be the new team. Wrigley field now named WGN Field (I own WGN) would be moved to Michigan Ave & Wacker drive right across from Tribune Tower in the heart of the city. (pan to the left where the building on the SW side is at thats where WGN Field is at) https://www.google.com/maps?q=&layer...ed=0CCwQxB0wAA
Chad A. 7 yr manager of the Cubs would be named BC. Brian Mack 11 yr mgr of the Sox would become AGM. I will be Owner GM & MGR thru 2043. (I die in 2043 at age 67)
SS is slightly different for what I have planned for MLB but my ABF is the base. ABF is based off of the top 16 most populated cities as of 2010.

( I will delete this later on if you want wasn't trying to hijack your thread)
I also have a QS for the ABF for OOTP 13 and OOTP 11. It's on OOTP mods for 11.

[CatKnight]

Originally Posted by DreamTeams

Interesting. However, Charlotte is #17 on 2012 U.S. top 50 cities population chart. Was trying to keep each team close to it's current market. Perhaps switch them around...

Indianapolis Mets
Charlotte White Sox

Both sound good, too.

Perhaps for a city in the millions population with no current team the Mets could be moved to Dallas...

Dallas Mets (#9 on the chart, pop. 1,241,162)

The Texas Rangers are in Arlington, a suburb of Dallas

[Padreman]

Very very nice GAME

[DreamTeams]

Originally Posted by CatKnight

The Texas Rangers are in Arlington, a suburb of Dallas

Ahh, your right CatKnight. Forgot about that. Way too close of a market.

[Overkill]

Originally Posted by Padreman

So your thoughts should I relocate the Mets or the Yankees? Why and where?

The Mets should move. The Yankees have been there since 1903 vs 1962 for the Mets. The Yankees have also won more championships than any other team, and seem to be the most loved and most hated team in baseball. Keep it that way.

Originally Posted by Padreman

The Cubs or the White Sox? Why and where?

This one is a little tougher, but I would say to move the Cubs. They have been in existence since 1870, while the White Sox were founded in 1894 but have only been based in Chicago since 1900. Again, quite a long time, but the White Sox have only one more World Series title than the Cubs (3-2). This was a tough one.

Originally Posted by Padreman

What two new cities for expansion? Remember I want to keep the division even. I don't want to be all four teams in the east coast. And what nicknames for these teams?

I'll answer this by listing some locations. I'll also include where each city ranks in terms of metropolitan population of cities within North America according to Wikipedia.

1) Montreal Expos (ranks 21st)- bring them back. I do not think I need to say much here. But I suggest having them play in Labatt Stadium.


2) Mexico City Aztecs (ranks 1st) - Mexico City has one of the highest populations in the world and could be the most populous city in your universe depending on your sources. The elevation would make Coors Field seem tame in terms of home runs. The justification for the name Aztecs is in reference to the people who poulated the area around Mexico City prior to the arrival of Europeans and the suggested logo is one that was used by San Diego state from 1997-2001. An owner for the team could be Carlos Slim Helu, who seems to be in the top 3 for richest people in the world according to Forbes on a regular basis, and has even topped the list. His love for baseball is also illustrated in this link. You could probably even name the stadium after another company he owns like Telmex.


3) Monterrey Sultans (ranks 20th) - It already has the Sultanes de Monterrey in the Mexican Baseball League, but an MLB team would be in direct competition. I suggest this name not because it is anglicizing the name of an already existing team, but because Monterrey is known as the Sultan of the North due to the business industry. The fact that there is already a team there with that name is a bonus.


4) Vancouver Grizzlies (ranks 34th) - Close to Seattle, but it would provide another team in the Pacific Northwest for people to support. If somebody could modify the logo below to have a baseball instead of a basketball in the paw of the bear, the logo would work well.


5) Portland Beavers (ranks 35th) - I tried to refrain from including another US city, but I believe it is the largest US metropolitan area that does not currently have an MLB team. This is not including Riverside-San Bernardino as it is often incorporated in Los Angeles and San Juan as, well, it is in Puerto Rico.


6) Santurce Crabbers (San Juan ranks 29th) - I question whether San Juan could support a team financially, which is why I have it at 6th on this list. But it is another area that MLB could potentially expand to. I have used Santurce instead of San Juan to fit the logo and uniform featured on the following link. There also used to be a team named Cangrejeros de Santurce, translated to Santurce Crabbers.


There you go. You wanted four suggestions of teams, I gave six with logos and a few reasons for my choices. Aside from Montreal, I tried to stay away from the Northeast.

[Overkill]

I suppose you could also move the White Sox back to Sioux City and call them the Cornhuskers, as they were known in 1894.