What Gives with Fan Interest?

james17 · 07-10-2016, 03:15 AM

I traded a guy who was exceptionally popular for a guy who's also exceptionally popular. The fan interest crashed about 7 points because the fans were upset I traded the exc. pop. player. That's ok but in previous releases I'd get the fan interest back because the guy I traded for is also exc. popular. Didn't happen this time...the fan interest stayed down. Has something changed in version 17? If you trade one popular player for another shouldn't the fan interest lost equal the fan interest gained?

Déjà Bru · 07-10-2016, 12:19 PM

You talking national or local popularity? And, are you talking about the same variety for both players?

james17 · 07-10-2016, 02:03 PM

They were both extremely popular locally and very high overall (I can't quite remember exact wording but they were identical there too).

I'm wondering if I ought to use the editor to add some more fan interest but I only want to do that if what happened is perceived as a bug in the program.

Déjà Bru · 07-10-2016, 02:09 PM

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Originally Posted by james17

They were both extremely popular locally and very high overall (I can't quite remember exact wording but they were identical there too).

I'm wondering if I ought to use the editor to add some more fan interest but I only want to do that if what happened is perceived as a bug in the program.

Hmmm. Maybe they changed this to be more "local" in that location A's local popularity will not necessarily instantaneously translate to local popularity in location B. This would make sense.

james17 · 07-10-2016, 02:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

Hmmm. Maybe they changed this to be more "local" in that location A's local popularity will not necessarily instantaneously translate to local popularity in location B. This would make sense.

Good answer. That would make sense though I didn't see that listed as a changed feature.

saturn2187 · 11-04-2016, 09:15 PM

Ever get any more info on this? I had the same situation happen to me in my online league. I even signed an over the hill "extremely popular" player and my fan interest didn't move one bit, nor did I get an email.

saturn2187 · 11-04-2016, 09:16 PM

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james17 · 11-04-2016, 10:16 PM

Nope. Still having a problem with fan interest failing to increase even when popular players are signed or traded for.

Déjà Bru · 11-05-2016, 09:05 AM

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Originally Posted by james17

Nope. Still having a problem with fan interest failing to increase even when popular players are signed or traded for.

Yes, but I thought we had "resolved" it (in our minds) that it may be primarily a local popularity kind of thing in that the new player who was locally popular someplace else does not immediately replace in fans' hearts the locally popular player who just left.

Of course, it's always a good thing to have Markus or Matt comment to either debunk a theory or "make it official."

MrBojangles · 11-05-2016, 09:17 AM

Does a drop (or increase) in fan interest of a few points make a difference to any other aspect of the game?
I see attendance at home games with a loose correlation to my teams W-L performance, even when popularity is flat.
Even a slight drop in attendance, possibly caused by a slight drop in popularity, only translates into a handful of ticket sales.

Déjà Bru · 11-05-2016, 09:22 AM

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Originally Posted by MrBojangles

Does a drop (or increase) in fan interest of a few points make a difference to any other aspect of the game?
I see attendance at home games with a loose correlation to my teams W-L performance, even when popularity is flat.
Even a slight drop in attendance, possibly caused by a slight drop in popularity, only translates into a handful of ticket sales.

That's a good point. When the game says "Fan interest crashed!" or whatever the wording, it still is not that much in absolute numbers. And, even when it does "crash," I don't see much change in attendance or marketing revenue, either. I think the fan interest bar has to move down significantly before any significant negative effects are seen. That would take several bad moves, I think.

james17 · 11-05-2016, 11:10 PM

I dunno, guys. It really would be good if Matt or Markus chimed in on this. I still don't know why signing a popular player in a trade doesn't boost popularity.

saturn2187 · 11-05-2016, 11:34 PM

Sucks when this off season I dealt away an extremely popular one for a "very popular" one. Fan interest crashed with the departure. Unaffected by the new arrival.

BigRed75 · 11-05-2016, 11:43 PM

But again, did it have any demonstrable affect on your team's financial performance?

Otherwise, it's merely cosmetic and not anything to worry about.

saturn2187 · 11-05-2016, 11:44 PM

It's directly tied to number of season tickets sold . Those have not gone on sale yet but I can report back soon

james17 · 11-06-2016, 01:48 AM

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Originally Posted by saturn2187

It's directly tied to number of season tickets sold . Those have not gone on sale yet but I can report back soon

Yes...I have noticed that too.

ttaka808 · 11-06-2016, 06:25 AM

Still can't tell if this is a bug that has been in the game since day 1 or if it's supposed to be because of that local popularity thing.

james17 · 11-06-2016, 11:04 AM

I believe it's an OOTP 17 bug from release. Prior to that, all the OOTP releases would decrease/increase the fan interest if the trades involving popular players going and coming went through.

ttaka808 · 11-06-2016, 03:16 PM

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Originally Posted by james17

I believe it's an OOTP 17 bug from release. Prior to that, all the OOTP releases would decrease/increase the fan interest if the trades involving popular players going and coming went through.

That's what I was thinking. It was too easy to increase fan interest in 16 though, which is why they might have decided to change it.

edg1931 · 02-17-2017, 07:46 AM

This really needs to be fixed. I have never received a fan interest increase, even with getting the best players in my leagues. I now have had 1 in fan interest in 5 straight seasons and have to trade my best players because I can't get anyone to come to the games even though I win over 105 games a year. Any time I build it up, it goes back down because I have to trade my best players or lose them to Free Agency. It's really annoying.

07-10-2016, 03:15 AM	#1
james17 All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,306	What Gives with Fan Interest? I traded a guy who was exceptionally popular for a guy who's also exceptionally popular. The fan interest crashed about 7 points because the fans were upset I traded the exc. pop. player. That's ok but in previous releases I'd get the fan interest back because the guy I traded for is also exc. popular. Didn't happen this time...the fan interest stayed down. Has something changed in version 17? If you trade one popular player for another shouldn't the fan interest lost equal the fan interest gained?

07-10-2016, 12:19 PM	#2
Déjà Bru Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: United States Posts: 10,456	You talking national or local popularity? And, are you talking about the same variety for both players? __________________ - Bru

11-05-2016, 11:43 PM	#14
BigRed75 Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2009 Posts: 2,430	But again, did it have any demonstrable affect on your team's financial performance? Otherwise, it's merely cosmetic and not anything to worry about. __________________ Mainline team SPTT team Was not a Snag fan...until I saw the fallout once he was gone and realized what a good job he was actually doing. - Ty Cobb

02-17-2017, 07:46 AM	#20
edg1931 Bat Boy Join Date: Feb 2017 Posts: 11	Fan Interest This really needs to be fixed. I have never received a fan interest increase, even with getting the best players in my leagues. I now have had 1 in fan interest in 5 straight seasons and have to trade my best players because I can't get anyone to come to the games even though I win over 105 games a year. Any time I build it up, it goes back down because I have to trade my best players or lose them to Free Agency. It's really annoying.

07-10-2016, 02:03 PM	#3
james17 All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,306	They were both extremely popular locally and very high overall (I can't quite remember exact wording but they were identical there too). I'm wondering if I ought to use the editor to add some more fan interest but I only want to do that if what happened is perceived as a bug in the program.

11-04-2016, 09:15 PM	#6
saturn2187 All Star Reserve Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 515	Ever get any more info on this? I had the same situation happen to me in my online league. I even signed an over the hill "extremely popular" player and my fan interest didn't move one bit, nor did I get an email.

11-04-2016, 09:16 PM	#7
saturn2187 All Star Reserve Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 515	Delete

11-04-2016, 10:16 PM	#8
james17 All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,306	Nope. Still having a problem with fan interest failing to increase even when popular players are signed or traded for.

11-05-2016, 09:17 AM	#10
MrBojangles All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: low and inside Posts: 568	Does a drop (or increase) in fan interest of a few points make a difference to any other aspect of the game? I see attendance at home games with a loose correlation to my teams W-L performance, even when popularity is flat. Even a slight drop in attendance, possibly caused by a slight drop in popularity, only translates into a handful of ticket sales.

11-05-2016, 11:10 PM	#12
james17 All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,306	I dunno, guys. It really would be good if Matt or Markus chimed in on this. I still don't know why signing a popular player in a trade doesn't boost popularity.

11-05-2016, 11:34 PM	#13
saturn2187 All Star Reserve Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 515	Sucks when this off season I dealt away an extremely popular one for a "very popular" one. Fan interest crashed with the departure. Unaffected by the new arrival.

11-05-2016, 11:44 PM	#15
saturn2187 All Star Reserve Join Date: Nov 2012 Posts: 515	It's directly tied to number of season tickets sold . Those have not gone on sale yet but I can report back soon

11-06-2016, 06:25 AM	#17
ttaka808 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Mar 2015 Posts: 277	Still can't tell if this is a bug that has been in the game since day 1 or if it's supposed to be because of that local popularity thing.

11-06-2016, 11:04 AM	#18
james17 All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 1,306	I believe it's an OOTP 17 bug from release. Prior to that, all the OOTP releases would decrease/increase the fan interest if the trades involving popular players going and coming went through.