Reliever stats

dumbrabbit · 01-16-2017, 01:26 PM

How should I go about looking for relievers who put up good stats? The guys have good strikeout and walk rates, or the guys who have low home run/hits rates?

cavebutter · 01-16-2017, 01:40 PM

I generally look at K/9, WHIP, and FIP- for relievers.

thorpegiovanni · 01-16-2017, 03:38 PM

I look @ ERA, WHIP, K/BB, and HR/9.

NoOne · 01-17-2017, 03:26 PM

you should apply different thresholds to SP vs RP too.. HR/9 is much more damaging to a RP than a SP in a given season. so, movement becomes more important to a RP than a SP. you don't want a top-3 reliever giving up more than the league average HR/9ip.

I give a little more with walks too. a good bb/9 for a starter is < 3 or so... for an RP i will let that go a bit higher if they are awesome at the other thigns (k/9, whip etc). but, there is a point where weak control will make a 70-80/80 rp much weaker than their rating leads you to believe

ERA has too many factors that the pitcher does not control to blame him for it... i do look at it though. i try to translate it by looking at bad luck (elevated babip),,, if i see a reason, i won't hold them accountable for a bad 1-season ERA.

stick to the rates (k/9 bb/9). even whip needs to consider defense, so it needs a slight translation when comparing 2 different players or different season's data just like ERA.

Curve Ball Dave · 01-19-2017, 01:08 AM

ERA is not a very reliable stat for relievers. One or two bad games can blow it up for the season and not really represent his body of work.

I look for WHIP. Relievers who throw strikes (walks will kill ya) and don't allow many hits are the go to guys out of the pen. The other team can't win without base runners.

01-16-2017, 01:26 PM	#1
dumbrabbit All Star Reserve Join Date: Aug 2012 Posts: 827	Reliever stats How should I go about looking for relievers who put up good stats? The guys have good strikeout and walk rates, or the guys who have low home run/hits rates?

01-16-2017, 01:40 PM	#2
cavebutter All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 1,158	I generally look at K/9, WHIP, and FIP- for relievers. __________________ MySQL, MyStruggle - A self-indulgent blog about my attempts to roll my own MySQL Database with OOTP Logo Gallery

01-17-2017, 03:26 PM	#4
NoOne Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2015 Posts: 7,167	you should apply different thresholds to SP vs RP too.. HR/9 is much more damaging to a RP than a SP in a given season. so, movement becomes more important to a RP than a SP. you don't want a top-3 reliever giving up more than the league average HR/9ip. I give a little more with walks too. a good bb/9 for a starter is < 3 or so... for an RP i will let that go a bit higher if they are awesome at the other thigns (k/9, whip etc). but, there is a point where weak control will make a 70-80/80 rp much weaker than their rating leads you to believe ERA has too many factors that the pitcher does not control to blame him for it... i do look at it though. i try to translate it by looking at bad luck (elevated babip),,, if i see a reason, i won't hold them accountable for a bad 1-season ERA. stick to the rates (k/9 bb/9). even whip needs to consider defense, so it needs a slight translation when comparing 2 different players or different season's data just like ERA. Last edited by NoOne; 01-17-2017 at 03:29 PM.

01-19-2017, 01:08 AM	#5
Curve Ball Dave Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2006 Location: Chicago Posts: 2,271	ERA is not a very reliable stat for relievers. One or two bad games can blow it up for the season and not really represent his body of work. I look for WHIP. Relievers who throw strikes (walks will kill ya) and don't allow many hits are the go to guys out of the pen. The other team can't win without base runners. __________________ "Hitting is timing. Pitching is upsetting timing"-Warren Spahn.

01-16-2017, 03:38 PM	#3
thorpegiovanni All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2016 Posts: 550	I look @ ERA, WHIP, K/BB, and HR/9.