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Old 05-01-2007, 11:14 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Caught Stealing stat for catchers

I play out my games on a PC.

I have noticed that when my catcher throws out a steal attempt, it is logged in the box scores and batting stats as CS. I believe that it also correctly records the fielding stat of RTO.

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Not sure what the problem is here. Can you explain it in more detail?
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Old 05-02-2007, 11:46 AM   #3 (permalink)
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The problem shows up in the box score and the catcher's stats. I posted the wrong files, sorry.

In these box scores and game log, you can see that the catcher (A Rivera) throws out E. Aguirre in the first inning. the log does not report A Rivera ever attempting a steal but the box score and his batting stats show a CS. I have to do more checking to see if his fielding stats are correctly updated.
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The problem shows up in the box score and the catcher's stats. I posted the wrong files, sorry.

In these box scores and game log, you can see that the catcher (A Rivera) throws out E. Aguirre in the first inning. the log does not report A Rivera ever attempting a steal but the box score and his batting stats show a CS. I have to do more checking to see if his fielding stats are correctly updated.
Now I'm really confused. I looked at the log. Aguirre shows as caught stealing to end the game in the log.
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Here is a screenshot of the first inning. The imprtant thing about Aguirre is that Rivera threw him out.

Did you see in the log that Rivera was never caught stealing?
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Here is a screenshot of the first inning. The imprtant thing about Aguirre is that Rivera threw him out.

Did you see in the log that Rivera was never caught stealing?
Rivera WASN'T caught stealing. Rivera was the catcher. The catcher isn't caught stealing; he catches runners (Aguirre).

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In these box scores and game log, you can see that the catcher (A Rivera) throws out E. Aguirre in the first inning. the log does not report A Rivera ever attempting a steal but the box score and his batting stats show a CS. I have to do more checking to see if his fielding stats are correctly updated.
Rivera did not attempt a steal; Aguirre did. This should show up in Rivera's fielding stats, not in Aguirre's.

Fidel, I'm confused, too. As near as I can tell, noble has mentally transposed what catchers do with what runners do. To me, everything looks right.
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Rivera WASN'T caught stealing. Rivera was the catcher. The catcher isn't caught stealing; he catches runners (Aguirre).

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Rivera did not attempt a steal; Aguirre did. This should show up in Rivera's fielding stats, not in Aguirre's.
The point he's trying to make is that the box score says that Rivera did try to steal:

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CS: N. Wilson (14), A. Rivera (6)
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But really all I want to do is play.

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The point he's trying to make is that the box score says that Rivera did try to steal:

BASERUNNING
CS: N. Wilson (14), A. Rivera (6)

Thank you! that is what I was trying to get across. The log is right rivera NEVER attempted to steal, but the box score gives him a CS that is also recorded in his batting stats.
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I wonder if this is whats causing the high CS% numbers?

http://ootpdevelopments.com/board/sh...d.php?t=146789
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I wonder if this is whats causing the high CS% numbers?

http://ootpdevelopments.com/board/sh...d.php?t=146789
I think that's a different problem. What's listed here is the catcher apparently getting a CS credit when it should be a RTO. The other thread is runners actually getting caught stealing way too often.
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This has been claimed fixed for the third patch. If after installing the third patch (once it is released), you find this to still be a problem, please post as such in Tech Support along with the above TT number. Thanks.
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