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Old 02-01-2007, 10:42 AM   #1 (permalink)
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Recalculating ratings each season

I wanted to highlight one item from the change list to ask about it:

- Added the option to recalculate player ratings based on real life stats before each new season

This is very interesting to me, as I've considered running a league like this before, but it would have involved some heave importing and exporting of data, so I've never bothered.

So, one question I have about it:

Let's say a guy retires from baseball in real life, but he's still going strong in the OOTP league. Will the game force him to retire in OOTP as well, or will he continue on and age normally.

Take Addie Joss, for example. Superb pitcher whose life and career were cut short by meningitis. He last pitched at age 30 in 1910 and was still going strong. Would the game force him to retire after 1910, or would he age like a normal fictional player?

I am actually hoping for the latter, or at least the option.

On the other hand, I assume that if a guy suffers a career-ending injury in the game, he isn't magically brought back to life the next year. I am hoping this is also the case.
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I can anwser this one...

If a guy continues past his 'real' retirement age, he will continue to play, his last ratings are used, along with the aging process. So, it will be like recalc is off for the remaining years.

And no, if he suffers a CEI in ootp, he is gone. Unless of course you edit him to bring him back from the CEI.

In a test season I recently ran, Dennis Eckersly changed from a starter to a closer mid way though his career, just like in real life.
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Yeah, the recalc ratings mode is pretty cool. Though you can get some odd results caused by players having an injury plagued year in real life. For example, I ran one of these leagues, and in one of the seasons in which Ken Griffey Jr. was injured for most of it, his ratings dropped to really low levels. So looking at his career lines, you'd see year after year of an obviously very good hitter - and then stuck there in the middle is a year in which he plays 150 games, but hits all of .212 with 3 homers. And then the next year his ratings bounce back to normal and he has a good year again.
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I can anwser this one...

If a guy continues past his 'real' retirement age, he will continue to play, his last ratings are used, along with the aging process. So, it will be like recalc is off for the remaining years.

And no, if he suffers a CEI in ootp, he is gone. Unless of course you edit him to bring him back from the CEI.

In a test season I recently ran, Dennis Eckersly changed from a starter to a closer mid way though his career, just like in real life.
Perfect. Exactly what I was hoping for.
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Yeah, the recalc ratings mode is pretty cool. Though you can get some odd results caused by players having an injury plagued year in real life. For example, I ran one of these leagues, and in one of the seasons in which Ken Griffey Jr. was injured for most of it, his ratings dropped to really low levels. So looking at his career lines, you'd see year after year of an obviously very good hitter - and then stuck there in the middle is a year in which he plays 150 games, but hits all of .212 with 3 homers. And then the next year his ratings bounce back to normal and he has a good year again.
Most years, I create a modified database for myself that sort of averages together a player's career average stats with the current year stats so that deviations are deadened a bit. Sounds like it would be perfect for getting around this.
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Yeah, the recalc ratings mode is pretty cool. Though you can get some odd results caused by players having an injury plagued year in real life.
Uh oh Sounds like the recalc is done each year, not based on remaining career or 3-year averages. Although Ken Griffey Jr is/has been pretty injury prone. Is this a global option or individual player consideration?
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Most years, I create a modified database for myself that sort of averages together a player's career average stats with the current year stats so that deviations are deadened a bit. Sounds like it would be perfect for getting around this.
Yeah, I just ran the sim with a vanilla lahman database. Your modified db sounds perfect for running a historical league with the recalc option enabled.
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Uh oh Sounds like the recalc is done each year, not based on remaining career or 3-year averages. Although Ken Griffey Jr is/has been pretty injury prone. Is this a global option or individual player consideration?
Global option. Obviously, in commissioner mode, you could make adjustments to individual players' ratings as warranted.
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Uh oh Sounds like the recalc is done each year, not based on remaining career or 3-year averages. Although Ken Griffey Jr is/has been pretty injury prone. Is this a global option or individual player consideration?
My understanding is that recalc works by calculating the ratings each year based on the player's actual performance. However, I haven't tested it enough to know whether there are options to base the calculations on 3 year averages or anything like that. Someone else should be able to answer that question better.
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