Historical and WWII

SDtwin · 02-03-2007, 09:05 PM

I don't play historical sims at all, but I know that there were some players who didn't play because they went to the war. I was wondering how the new historical stat thing does that? Do they dissapear for a year or two? or does it just leave them in the game and average it out?

Raidergoo · 02-03-2007, 09:26 PM

WW II is not handled, nor is Korea, nor the draft service that snagged quite a few players in the 50's.

In the suggestion forum last year, a war.txt file was suggested to tell the game when a historical player left for military service, and when they returned. I can guarantee it will be suggested again.

Le Grande Orange · 02-03-2007, 09:57 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raidergoo

In the suggestion forum last year, a war.txt file was suggested to tell the game when a historical player left for military service, and when they returned. I can guarantee it will be suggested again.

Definitely. Most definitely.

chimanbj · 02-14-2007, 05:22 PM

I wonder how that could play out in fictional leagues. It could be treated as an injury, wiht possible sub-injuries that would be career-ending including death...

Russ · 02-14-2007, 05:24 PM

I read somewhere that you had the option to re-import player attributes every season to make the game as historically accurate as possible. Like Ruth changing from P to RF, and Eck from SP to CL. How does this work for those guys who went to war?

EDIT: Here it is from the changelist.

- Added the option to recalculate player ratings based on real life stats before each new season

Gambo · 02-14-2007, 06:27 PM

If i recall correctly, the game will just revert to the traditional development system for those players who missed seasons.

The Professor · 02-14-2007, 06:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Raidergoo

WW II is not handled, nor is Korea, nor the draft service that snagged quite a few players in the 50's.

In the suggestion forum last year, a war.txt file was suggested to tell the game when a historical player left for military service, and when they returned. I can guarantee it will be suggested again.

That would be outstanding.

lewis31lewis52 · 02-14-2007, 06:47 PM

What happens if they have a really great season in 1945, bet when 1946 rolls around, and they have a bad season in real life, will their stats just randomly drop 50 points?

Gambo · 02-14-2007, 07:12 PM

I think the way it is describes is that when you start a league you can chose how many years are used to create their ratings each year. One year will not make that drastic a difference but rather it will be a slower decline...

purely speculative

kagnew35 · 02-14-2007, 07:27 PM

in 2006, the arod-garlon db 2.1 DOES add the war years by averaging stats 3 years before and 3 years after to fill in the gap. Assume it will be upgraded for 2007

Curtis · 02-14-2007, 09:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Gambo

I think the way it is described is that when you start a league you can chose how many years are used to create their ratings each year. One year will not make that drastic a difference but rather it will be a slower decline...

I believe it was stated that you could choose year-by-year, or either a three or five year rolling average. I like five year rolling averages.

Le Grande Orange · 02-14-2007, 11:45 PM

Just a note, but for the effects of WWII and the Korean War to be correctly modelled, there would also have to be some additional roster limit rules added to the game. Players returning from those wars were placed on a special roster list which didn't count against the normal roster limits. The precise nature of how it worked depended on which war.

Claymore · 02-15-2007, 02:49 AM

I'd really like to see an option in here to simulate players leaving for military service. The txt file seems the easiest way to impliment it.

02-03-2007, 09:05 PM	#1 (permalink)
SDtwin Major Leagues Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: San Diego Posts: 402	Historical and WWII I don't play historical sims at all, but I know that there were some players who didn't play because they went to the war. I was wondering how the new historical stat thing does that? Do they dissapear for a year or two? or does it just leave them in the game and average it out?

02-03-2007, 09:26 PM	#2 (permalink)
Raidergoo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: 39.84 N -84.12 W Posts: 7,363	WW II is not handled, nor is Korea, nor the draft service that snagged quite a few players in the 50's. In the suggestion forum last year, a war.txt file was suggested to tell the game when a historical player left for military service, and when they returned. I can guarantee it will be suggested again. __________________

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chimanbj All Star Reserve Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 705	I wonder how that could play out in fictional leagues. It could be treated as an injury, wiht possible sub-injuries that would be career-ending including death... __________________ People ask if I'm a Cubs or White Sox fan...I tell them, proudly, I'm a Phillies Phan!

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Russ All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: In a van down by the Severn River Posts: 1,349 Warnings: 1	I read somewhere that you had the option to re-import player attributes every season to make the game as historically accurate as possible. Like Ruth changing from P to RF, and Eck from SP to CL. How does this work for those guys who went to war? EDIT: Here it is from the changelist. - Added the option to recalculate player ratings based on real life stats before each new season Last edited by Russ : 02-14-2007 at 05:41 PM.

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lewis31lewis52 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Central Michigan University Posts: 581	What happens if they have a really great season in 1945, bet when 1946 rolls around, and they have a bad season in real life, will their stats just randomly drop 50 points? __________________

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Gambo All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 644	If i recall correctly, the game will just revert to the traditional development system for those players who missed seasons.

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Gambo All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Oklahoma Posts: 644	I think the way it is describes is that when you start a league you can chose how many years are used to create their ratings each year. One year will not make that drastic a difference but rather it will be a slower decline... purely speculative

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kagnew35 All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Las Vegas, Nev Posts: 1,221	in 2006, the arod-garlon db 2.1 DOES add the war years by averaging stats 3 years before and 3 years after to fill in the gap. Assume it will be upgraded for 2007 __________________ Elder Statesman of the Board http://www.soxxcountry.com/ site with Duffys Tavern Live OOTP Chat Room Soxx World of Baseball Commissioner

02-14-2007, 11:45 PM	#12 (permalink)
Le Grande Orange Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Scheduleslovakia Posts: 6,338	Just a note, but for the effects of WWII and the Korean War to be correctly modelled, there would also have to be some additional roster limit rules added to the game. Players returning from those wars were placed on a special roster list which didn't count against the normal roster limits. The precise nature of how it worked depended on which war. __________________ . "We choose to go to the moon in this decade and do the other things not because they are easy, but because they are hard. Because that goal will serve to organize and measure the best of our abilities and skills, because that challenge is one we are willing to accept, one we are unwilling to postpone, and one which we intend to win." .

02-15-2007, 02:49 AM	#13 (permalink)
Claymore All Star Reserve Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 745	I'd really like to see an option in here to simulate players leaving for military service. The txt file seems the easiest way to impliment it.

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