This sounds awesome!

Mister Bogart · 02-09-2007, 01:00 AM

Everytime I go through the updates list I find another gem!

- Added the ability to import historical teams in the league structure editor

Does this mean you could set up a league with teams from different eras "automatically" and do your own best teams of all-time league.

This could be worth the price of admission for just this feature! I have been wanting to do that forever!

battists · 02-09-2007, 01:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mister Bogart

Does this mean you could set up a league with teams from different eras "automatically" and do your own best teams of all-time league.

Yes. Well, I don't know how "automatic" it would be, since you'd need to import each team one at a time.

There was one guy in beta who made an entire division out of different Cincinnati Reds' teams from different years.

Mister Bogart · 02-09-2007, 01:07 AM

That is more automatic than I remember it being.

Kinda reminds me of the old Earl Weaver days or MicroLeague Baseball. You always had teams that were like NYYAN65 vs. NYYAN62.

Awesome! Just awesome!

rasnell · 02-09-2007, 03:55 AM

I've already tested by importing my greatest teams. Yes, you can add any team from any season. It takes a little time to set up, but I see this being a great area where many of us will be posting quick starts with our own versions of the greatest teams.

There is a problem with greatest teams crossing the extreme eras of deadball to modern and this makes sense. No game could adjust for BA and HR between that vast of an era. You'll have to decide for yourself which era you would rather model.

My better test was creating the best teams since 1970 since the numbers are closer to modern day and everything seemed to work. Remember that these players will age and eventually retire if you try to use this as more than a single-season replay. You would also have to decide how to manage the rookie draft in subsequent years -- some of the same players would import.

But it was wonderful to be able to create my own historic teams, see them replay. By creating a quick start, you could simply keep replaying that over and over again.

A couple of experiments that I would like to try later:

1. Take these same greatest teams, release all the players and then do a draft. Then you would get a very interesting mix of some of the greatest players of all-time and could continue on for many seasons.

2. Continue on for multiple seasons and have rookie drafts of fictional players to see if anybody could measure up to the real greats.

It does take some time to individually import each team. But all you're doing is pointing and clicking to the year and selecting the team and adding them to the league structure. Not hard, just a little time-consuming. But the payoff is a lot of fun.

Claymore · 02-09-2007, 05:24 AM

What I'd really love to see is the ability to have an all-time league, which kept track of stats and allowed player contracts, but no aging happened (i.e. you could just turn it off). I have asked about this a few times in the past, I'm guessing the it didn't make this years cut?

Curtis · 02-09-2007, 06:55 AM

You can turn development off in 2006, and if you turn off injuries the players age more slowly. Would either of those help you?

Claymore · 02-09-2007, 07:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Curtis

You can turn development off in 2006, and if you turn off injuries the players age more slowly. Would either of those help you?

Actually I'd just like to see an option to toggle aging off, for Hall of Fame type leagues where you are taking the top 300 or so HoFers and putting them into a league, so they don't age.

rasnell · 02-09-2007, 07:47 AM

In addition to turning development off, there are global settings for aging. 1.0 is default. I wonder what happens at 0. I'll post on the beta board and get back to you.

I didn't think of this in testing my all-time greats. That just might work.

Craig Scarborough · 02-09-2007, 07:57 AM

Man.

There are so many ways people play this game that never even entered my mind. I sometimes feel sorry for Markus. How can one create a baseball program and satisfy the masses like he attempts to? It's difficult enough to create a game that plays, looks, feels, etc., like real baseball. However, to have to be as open as the user community demands (e.g. "I want the players in my league to be a super-race of 11 year old ambidextrous albinos who literally explode on the day of their first ground-rule double. That's possible, right?") must make him want to pull his hair out.

Can the rest of the guys at SI comment on Markus' hair coverage? Has he aged like those old pictures of Abraham Lincoln before and after his presidency since he joined SI?

rasnell · 02-09-2007, 08:09 AM

FaceGen takes care of exactly what you described. We're still tweaking the ambidextrous settings (lefties seem too strong compared to righties).

We're also having trouble getting the smell of the hot dogs and popcorn correct when you enter your ballpark. The digital data is supposed to rub the hard drive and the cooling fan blows out the smell of popcorn. It's not quite right yet, smells like brats and not hot dogs.

Markus Heinsohn · 02-09-2007, 08:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rasnell

FaceGen takes care of exactly what you described. We're still tweaking the ambidextrous settings (lefties seem too strong compared to righties).

We're also having trouble getting the smell of the hot dogs and popcorn correct when you enter your ballpark. The digital data is supposed to rub the hard drive and the cooling fan blows out the smell of popcorn. It's not quite right yet, smells like brats and not hot dogs.

LMAO

Good one!

Oxydizer · 02-09-2007, 08:55 AM

MMMM, I can smell it now, brats cooking on the grill, watching my beloved Cubbies and playing OOTP, now life IS good!. I just wish it would get above 20 degress here.

Claymore · 02-09-2007, 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rasnell

In addition to turning development off, there are global settings for aging. 1.0 is default. I wonder what happens at 0. I'll post on the beta board and get back to you.

I didn't think of this in testing my all-time greats. That just might work.

I'd be curious to hear how it works out!

Claymore · 02-13-2007, 03:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rasnell

In addition to turning development off, there are global settings for aging. 1.0 is default. I wonder what happens at 0. I'll post on the beta board and get back to you.

I didn't think of this in testing my all-time greats. That just might work.

Did you or anyone else have a chance to look into this?

rasnell · 02-13-2007, 03:45 PM

Sorry for delay. You can turn their development off, but they will still age and retire, according to Markus.

So it's going to be more of a season replay league unless you try some of the options I mentioned above. It's just neat to finally be able to import any team, any year and build your own version of all-time greats using third-party databases like Lahman, arod/garlon.

Claymore · 02-13-2007, 03:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rasnell

Sorry for delay. You can turn their development off, but they will still age and retire, according to Markus.

So it's going to be more of a season replay league unless you try some of the options I mentioned above. It's just neat to finally be able to import any team, any year and build your own version of all-time greats using third-party databases like Lahman, arod/garlon.

Oh well, crap! There goes my HoF league...

Thanks for looking into it for me!

chimanbj · 02-13-2007, 04:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rasnell

We're also having trouble getting the smell of the hot dogs and popcorn correct when you enter your ballpark. The digital data is supposed to rub the hard drive and the cooling fan blows out the smell of popcorn. It's not quite right yet, smells like brats and not hot dogs.

That'll work in Milwaukee...Brats and Beer....

Kaitiaki · 02-13-2007, 05:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rasnell

We're also having trouble getting the smell of the hot dogs and popcorn correct when you enter your ballpark. The digital data is supposed to rub the hard drive and the cooling fan blows out the smell of popcorn. It's not quite right yet, smells like brats and not hot dogs.

I've read this thread a couple times now, and every time I do I end up picturing Rasnell as Gene Wilder.

I don't know why I felt compelled to share that.

- Kai

rasnell · 02-14-2007, 06:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kaitiaki

I've read this thread a couple times now, and every time I do I end up picturing Rasnell as Gene Wilder.

I don't know why I felt compelled to share that.

- Kai

I'll take that as a compliment. I think?

02-09-2007, 01:00 AM	#1 (permalink)
Mister Bogart Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 243	This sounds awesome! Everytime I go through the updates list I find another gem! - Added the ability to import historical teams in the league structure editor Does this mean you could set up a league with teams from different eras "automatically" and do your own best teams of all-time league. This could be worth the price of admission for just this feature! I have been wanting to do that forever! __________________ This is the beginning of a beautiful friendship..

02-09-2007, 01:07 AM	#3 (permalink)
Mister Bogart Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 243	That is more automatic than I remember it being. Kinda reminds me of the old Earl Weaver days or MicroLeague Baseball. You always had teams that were like NYYAN65 vs. NYYAN62. Awesome! Just awesome! __________________ This is the beginning of a beautiful friendship..

02-09-2007, 03:55 AM	#4 (permalink)
rasnell Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,674	I've already tested by importing my greatest teams. Yes, you can add any team from any season. It takes a little time to set up, but I see this being a great area where many of us will be posting quick starts with our own versions of the greatest teams. There is a problem with greatest teams crossing the extreme eras of deadball to modern and this makes sense. No game could adjust for BA and HR between that vast of an era. You'll have to decide for yourself which era you would rather model. My better test was creating the best teams since 1970 since the numbers are closer to modern day and everything seemed to work. Remember that these players will age and eventually retire if you try to use this as more than a single-season replay. You would also have to decide how to manage the rookie draft in subsequent years -- some of the same players would import. But it was wonderful to be able to create my own historic teams, see them replay. By creating a quick start, you could simply keep replaying that over and over again. A couple of experiments that I would like to try later: 1. Take these same greatest teams, release all the players and then do a draft. Then you would get a very interesting mix of some of the greatest players of all-time and could continue on for many seasons. 2. Continue on for multiple seasons and have rookie drafts of fictional players to see if anybody could measure up to the real greats. It does take some time to individually import each team. But all you're doing is pointing and clicking to the year and selecting the team and adding them to the league structure. Not hard, just a little time-consuming. But the payoff is a lot of fun. __________________ Author of new book, "Root for the Cubs: Charlie Root and the 1929 Chicago Cubs," to be published by Wind Publications and available to public by Opening Day 2009. Charlie Root is remembered for one pitch to Babe Ruth in the 1932 World Series. But baseball's biggest lie has overshadowed the career of the winningest pitcher in Cub history. Beta tester, OOTP 2007/08/09. Commissioner in fast-paced, historical Arcanum Baseball League. Member, Society for American Baseball Research.

02-09-2007, 07:47 AM	#8 (permalink)
rasnell Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,674	In addition to turning development off, there are global settings for aging. 1.0 is default. I wonder what happens at 0. I'll post on the beta board and get back to you. I didn't think of this in testing my all-time greats. That just might work. __________________ Author of new book, "Root for the Cubs: Charlie Root and the 1929 Chicago Cubs," to be published by Wind Publications and available to public by Opening Day 2009. Charlie Root is remembered for one pitch to Babe Ruth in the 1932 World Series. But baseball's biggest lie has overshadowed the career of the winningest pitcher in Cub history. Beta tester, OOTP 2007/08/09. Commissioner in fast-paced, historical Arcanum Baseball League. Member, Society for American Baseball Research.

02-09-2007, 08:09 AM	#10 (permalink)
rasnell Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,674	FaceGen takes care of exactly what you described. We're still tweaking the ambidextrous settings (lefties seem too strong compared to righties). We're also having trouble getting the smell of the hot dogs and popcorn correct when you enter your ballpark. The digital data is supposed to rub the hard drive and the cooling fan blows out the smell of popcorn. It's not quite right yet, smells like brats and not hot dogs. __________________ Author of new book, "Root for the Cubs: Charlie Root and the 1929 Chicago Cubs," to be published by Wind Publications and available to public by Opening Day 2009. Charlie Root is remembered for one pitch to Babe Ruth in the 1932 World Series. But baseball's biggest lie has overshadowed the career of the winningest pitcher in Cub history. Beta tester, OOTP 2007/08/09. Commissioner in fast-paced, historical Arcanum Baseball League. Member, Society for American Baseball Research.

02-09-2007, 05:24 AM	#5 (permalink)
Claymore All Star Reserve Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 745	What I'd really love to see is the ability to have an all-time league, which kept track of stats and allowed player contracts, but no aging happened (i.e. you could just turn it off). I have asked about this a few times in the past, I'm guessing the it didn't make this years cut?

02-09-2007, 07:57 AM	#9 (permalink)
Craig Scarborough OOTP Developments Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 398	Man. There are so many ways people play this game that never even entered my mind. I sometimes feel sorry for Markus. How can one create a baseball program and satisfy the masses like he attempts to? It's difficult enough to create a game that plays, looks, feels, etc., like real baseball. However, to have to be as open as the user community demands (e.g. "I want the players in my league to be a super-race of 11 year old ambidextrous albinos who literally explode on the day of their first ground-rule double. That's possible, right?") must make him want to pull his hair out. Can the rest of the guys at SI comment on Markus' hair coverage? Has he aged like those old pictures of Abraham Lincoln before and after his presidency since he joined SI?

02-09-2007, 08:55 AM	#12 (permalink)
Oxydizer All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Clinton, Illinois Posts: 566	MMMM, I can smell it now, brats cooking on the grill, watching my beloved Cubbies and playing OOTP, now life IS good!. I just wish it would get above 20 degress here. __________________ My website for graphic Modifications for all OOTP games. Latest release: New circle logo's

02-13-2007, 03:45 PM	#15 (permalink)
rasnell Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 2,674	Sorry for delay. You can turn their development off, but they will still age and retire, according to Markus. So it's going to be more of a season replay league unless you try some of the options I mentioned above. It's just neat to finally be able to import any team, any year and build your own version of all-time greats using third-party databases like Lahman, arod/garlon. __________________ Author of new book, "Root for the Cubs: Charlie Root and the 1929 Chicago Cubs," to be published by Wind Publications and available to public by Opening Day 2009. Charlie Root is remembered for one pitch to Babe Ruth in the 1932 World Series. But baseball's biggest lie has overshadowed the career of the winningest pitcher in Cub history. Beta tester, OOTP 2007/08/09. Commissioner in fast-paced, historical Arcanum Baseball League. Member, Society for American Baseball Research.

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