Question about Minor League Stats

[CBLCardinals]

Gentlemen,

How are the stats for your minor leagues looking in test sims? One frustration with the previous version was the very skewed stats lower levels of the minors would generate (league batting average of .190, team ERA's in the 2's, etc).

Will this be improved for OOTP '07?


Thanks in advance...

[StyxNCa]

Originally Posted by CBLCardinals

Gentlemen,

How are the stats for your minor leagues looking in test sims? One frustration with the previous version was the very skewed stats lower levels of the minors would generate (league batting average of .190, team ERA's in the 2's, etc).

Will this be improved for OOTP '07?


Thanks in advance...

Especially the rookie league where my All-star rep batted a whopping .095 on the year and won player of the year. Ugh!

[battists]

Originally Posted by CBLCardinals

Gentlemen,

How are the stats for your minor leagues looking in test sims? One frustration with the previous version was the very skewed stats lower levels of the minors would generate (league batting average of .190, team ERA's in the 2's, etc).

Will this be improved for OOTP '07?


Thanks in advance...

CBL, can you give an example of what kind of league you experienced this with? In detail? It's not something I've seen before.

[CubbyFan23]

CBL, I'm still seeing it unfortunately. However, there is now individual league totals that you can change for each minor league league (er), I'm not sure if that was in the previous version?

It may be an issue with real life created rosters that are heavily edited moreso than computer generated rosters that are more evenly balanced.

I hope that makes sense. I am going to try and mess with league totals for the minor leagues and try to get better #'s, but I agree, it is frusterating seeing a AAA team where the hitters all hit around .190-.230 as the average, especially in leagues where I would turn ratings off so all I would have to go off of was stats.

[Curtis]

I thought it was common. Certainly half a dozen people have posted about it in the 2006 section of the forum, including two in the past couple of weeks.

The short form is that the lower the level of minors (at least in affiliates — can't confirm that this happens in independents), the lower the batting averages and ERAs. In my Rookie level the league ERA was 0.98, the batting champ hit an even .200, and the home run champ (with 6 in 66 games) had only six HITS. (These were with default MLE settings.) At Short A the league ERA was around 1.50, and the batting champ hit .220. At each higher level the hitting and runs allowed increase, until you reach the majors, where they were not bad.

An explanation was given for this back around August, that the problem was that the pitchers weren't being adjusted by the MLEs, just the hitters were. Therefore, if the Contact MLE is .500, the hitters will only get half as many hits and generate far fewer than half as many runs.

[Raidergoo]

I interrupted my sim to get 1970 stats from AAA. May 20th is the date.

AAA leading hitter .351.

AAA leading ERA is 0.80 in 46 IP, but he got called up 2 weeks ago.

Entire AAA BA .238

Entire AAA ERA 2.79

It's a pitching heavy era, so I am not too worried about these numbers.

[Curtis]

In 2006 the farther down the minors you go, the more severe the effect.

[CBLCardinals]

Originally Posted by Curtis

In 2006 the farther down the minors you go, the more severe the effect.

battists - Curtis is correct, i thought this was a very common problem with any league with OOTP '06 from multiple posts last year.

My specific example is from an imported league inwhich rookie league and short a teams have extremely low team batting averages and low ERAs.

Thanks again for the help

[CBL-Commish]

If I remember correctly at least part of the problem was that fielding wasn't adjusted (in player creation modifiers, or maybe it was initial MLEs, I don't remember exactly) for lower levels of the minors, so that in A ball you'd have a league full of A ball hitters and pitchers, but major league quality fielders. That lead to extremely low BABIPs - and correspondingly low offenses. The farther down in league quality the worse it got because you'd still always have major league quality fielders.

[Markus Heinsohn]

Originally Posted by CBL-Commish

If I remember correctly at least part of the problem was that fielding wasn't adjusted (in player creation modifiers, or maybe it was initial MLEs, I don't remember exactly) for lower levels of the minors, so that in A ball you'd have a league full of A ball hitters and pitchers, but major league quality fielders. That lead to extremely low BABIPs - and correspondingly low offenses. The farther down in league quality the worse it got because you'd still always have major league quality fielders.

This is fixed...

[Raidergoo]

Originally Posted by battists

CBL, can you give an example of what kind of league you experienced this with? In detail? It's not something I've seen before.

This is a 2006 league. . .

http://www.emlb-baseball.com/clubhou...ng_report.html

Look at my Dayton Dragons A ball affiliate. Keep in mind that they just got swept in a 3 game series. 63-5 record? Team ERA 1.23? 30 SHO? League ERA 2.24?

Why am I 63-5?

http://www.emlb-baseball.com/clubhou...ng_report.html

Because Dayton hits 106 points better than league average.