About the players' weight

efgn · 02-20-2007, 01:41 PM

In the new version, it will have a variety of weights in players, for example, from 110 to (maybe) 250 lbs?

RonCo · 02-20-2007, 01:43 PM

Syd Thrift · 02-20-2007, 01:57 PM

You can also edit them, and if you make a guy who is 6 feet tall and weighs 300 pounds, he will facegen as a fattie. Great implementation for beer leagues!!!!

DCG Moo · 02-20-2007, 02:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

You can also edit them, and if you make a guy who is 6 feet tall and weighs 300 pounds, he will facegen as a fattie. Great implementation for beer leagues!!!!

...

My God, why had this not crossed my mind? You don't even necessarily need to focus the universe around it... just make it a third feeder league.

Age limits...
HS - 15-18
Col - 18-22
BL - 30-35

Or heck, make it a foreign league. Imagine sending your scout to the Beer League, and having him bring back a 310-pounder who'll hit .205 with 32 HRs his rookie year, and retire two years later from old age.

Oh, and this alone requires writing in a new injury... "Had kids, got old and lazy... joined the Beer League".

Priceless.

eriqjaffe · 02-20-2007, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by DCG Moo

Imagine sending your scout to the Beer League, and having him bring back a 310-pounder who'll hit .205 with 32 HRs his rookie year, and retire two years later from old age.

Kinda like a flash-in-the-pan version of Rob Deer!

endgame · 02-20-2007, 03:14 PM

I know this has been asked, but I don't remember the answer. Does bulk or body mass affect, at all, any potentials or ratings? Will some bigger, heavier players possess more power?

kingcharlesxii · 02-20-2007, 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by endgame

I know this has been asked, but I don't remember the answer. Does bulk or body mass affect, at all, any potentials or ratings? Will some bigger, heavier players possess more power?

On a similar note, what about being more prone to injuries?

RonCo · 02-20-2007, 03:56 PM

Syd Thrift · 02-20-2007, 04:14 PM

I have read this entire thread.

CBL-Commish · 02-20-2007, 04:35 PM

Do player weights change over time? Or do we get the David Wells baseball card view of the world - he still officially weighs 225 lbs., just like he did at 21.

Syd Thrift · 02-20-2007, 04:42 PM

I don't think it changes over time. Here's my take on why:

When a real life player transforms his six-pack into a keg, you don't always see this in media releases. In fact, it's my experience that the only time you see a team report a change in a player's weight it's because a. it's a good thing they're trying to show off (like a youngster growing into his body or somebody adding 15 pounds of muscle in the offseason) or an instance where it's so obvious that Tony Gwynn doesn't weigh 180 pounds anymore that the official press guide would be the subject of derision in the middle of games ("Mickey Lolich looks for the sign. He is listed at 6'1" and 210 pounds. 210. Yeah, right. Maybe if he took one of his feet off the scale").

RonCo · 02-20-2007, 04:58 PM

I need to look at it again, but if I remember correctly, players weights can change.

The Wolf · 02-20-2007, 08:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

("Mickey Lolich looks for the sign. He is listed at 6'1" and 210 pounds. 210. Yeah, right. Maybe if he took one of his feet off the scale").

"Cecil Fielder acknowledges a weight of 261, leaving unanswered the question of what he might weigh if he put his other foot on the scale." - Bill James

Bishop · 02-21-2007, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by eriqjaffe

Kinda like a flash-in-the-pan version of Rob Deer!

bravo!

Curtis · 02-22-2007, 11:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

"Mickey Lolich looks for the sign. He is listed at 6'1" and 210 pounds. 210. Yeah, right. Maybe if he took one of his feet off the scale."

This is why, in our 1977-8 Longball league, we refered to him as 'Fatboy' Lolich. Boog Powell was 'Slowdog'.

lewis31lewis52 · 02-23-2007, 12:17 AM

I'm positive weight changes are in, because I remember reading that FaceGen updates the photos as players' weight changes.

Big Six · 02-23-2007, 12:58 PM

I know I've seen the weights players change in previous versions of OOTP. Pat O'Farrell put on ten pounds late in his career. Lou Gehrig, who is 35 in my universe, weighed 200 when he broke in and goes 215 now.

There was a guy in my Keystone League, Donald Peterson, who was 6'1", 225 in his early thirties. By the time he retired, he was up to 255. He was a left fielder, and I also remember his range diminishing to that of a stop sign.

His nickname (game-generated) was "The Hulk." By his last year, I was thinking of him as "The Bulk."

lewis31lewis52 · 02-23-2007, 01:09 PM

I remember Donald Peterson. Never knew his weight changed, though.

Were weight changes in 2006 as well?

Markus Heinsohn · 02-23-2007, 01:30 PM

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Originally Posted by lewis31lewis52

I remember Donald Peterson. Never knew his weight changed, though.

Were weight changes in 2006 as well?

Yes.

lewis31lewis52 · 02-23-2007, 03:08 PM

Wow, I never knew that. Guess I just didn't change attention much. Well, at least I'll notice it now that FaceGen shows the players getting fatter.

02-20-2007, 01:41 PM	#1 (permalink)
efgn Minors (Single A) Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 67	About the players' weight In the new version, it will have a variety of weights in players, for example, from 110 to (maybe) 250 lbs?

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endgame Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 6,424	I know this has been asked, but I don't remember the answer. Does bulk or body mass affect, at all, any potentials or ratings? Will some bigger, heavier players possess more power? __________________ "Try again. Fail again. Fail better." -- Samuel Beckett We live in the shadowlands. The sun is always shining somewhere else. __________________

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CBL-Commish All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Maryland Posts: 1,322	Do player weights change over time? Or do we get the David Wells baseball card view of the world - he still officially weighs 225 lbs., just like he did at 21. __________________ For the best in O's news: Orioles' Hangout.com

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lewis31lewis52 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Central Michigan University Posts: 581	I'm positive weight changes are in, because I remember reading that FaceGen updates the photos as players' weight changes. __________________

02-23-2007, 12:58 PM	#17 (permalink)
Big Six All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Williamsburg, VA Posts: 1,645	I know I've seen the weights players change in previous versions of OOTP. Pat O'Farrell put on ten pounds late in his career. Lou Gehrig, who is 35 in my universe, weighed 200 when he broke in and goes 215 now. There was a guy in my Keystone League, Donald Peterson, who was 6'1", 225 in his early thirties. By the time he retired, he was up to 255. He was a left fielder, and I also remember his range diminishing to that of a stop sign. His nickname (game-generated) was "The Hulk." By his last year, I was thinking of him as "The Bulk." __________________ My current dynasties, and my all-time favorite: North of the Border: An O'Farrell Tale: the latest story of the O'Farrell clan The Base Ball Life of Patrick O'Farrell: where it all began A short(er) history of the Pat O'Farrell dynasty: if you want the Cliff's Notes version Welcome Back: Four from the Past: a DDS:CB story of four young coaches Reviving the Tradition: Gord Sullivan and the St. Michael's Majors: The saga of a junior hockey team

02-20-2007, 01:43 PM	#2 (permalink)
RonCo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 5,470	Yes.

02-20-2007, 01:57 PM	#3 (permalink)
Syd Thrift Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,113	You can also edit them, and if you make a guy who is 6 feet tall and weighs 300 pounds, he will facegen as a fattie. Great implementation for beer leagues!!!!

02-20-2007, 03:56 PM	#8 (permalink)
RonCo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 5,470

02-20-2007, 04:14 PM	#9 (permalink)
Syd Thrift Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,113	I have read this entire thread.

02-20-2007, 04:42 PM	#11 (permalink)
Syd Thrift Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,113	I don't think it changes over time. Here's my take on why: When a real life player transforms his six-pack into a keg, you don't always see this in media releases. In fact, it's my experience that the only time you see a team report a change in a player's weight it's because a. it's a good thing they're trying to show off (like a youngster growing into his body or somebody adding 15 pounds of muscle in the offseason) or an instance where it's so obvious that Tony Gwynn doesn't weigh 180 pounds anymore that the official press guide would be the subject of derision in the middle of games ("Mickey Lolich looks for the sign. He is listed at 6'1" and 210 pounds. 210. Yeah, right. Maybe if he took one of his feet off the scale").

02-20-2007, 04:58 PM	#12 (permalink)
RonCo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 5,470	I need to look at it again, but if I remember correctly, players weights can change.

02-23-2007, 01:09 PM	#18 (permalink)
lewis31lewis52 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Central Michigan University Posts: 581	I remember Donald Peterson. Never knew his weight changed, though. Were weight changes in 2006 as well? __________________

02-23-2007, 03:08 PM	#20 (permalink)
lewis31lewis52 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Central Michigan University Posts: 581	Wow, I never knew that. Guess I just didn't change attention much. Well, at least I'll notice it now that FaceGen shows the players getting fatter. __________________

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