TRTR : Day 8

[Markus Heinsohn]

Originally Posted by deadringer

If I import a roster set I'm using in 2006 (one created by Rolen) into 2007, will the weather be taken care of or will I need to do something to get the weather data in?

It'll be imported automatically...

[BusterKing]

What about retractable roofs?

Does it take them into account? When the roof is opened they have to deal with the wind factor?

When the roof is closed, always have perfect condition?

Markus?

[deadringer]

Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

It'll be imported automatically...

Thank you sir. By the way, I'm planning on importing this league definitely. At this time, is there any extra steps or advice I'll need to follow to get my league to run with all the new features, bells, and whistles?

[Markus Heinsohn]

Originally Posted by deadringer

Thank you sir. By the way, I'm planning on importing this league definitely. At this time, is there any extra steps or advice I'll need to follow to get my league to run with all the new features, bells, and whistles?

Nope, all is handled by the game

[Markus Heinsohn]

Originally Posted by BusterKing

What about retractable roofs?

Does it take them into account? When the roof is opened they have to deal with the wind factor?

When the roof is closed, always have perfect condition?

Markus?

Of course!

[kagnew35]

Online leagues that sim a week at a time could use a 7 day forcast of weather to set 7 day lineups. Any chance of having this?

[deadringer]

While I've got your ear, seeing as how the game is in as good a condition as reports are saying. In your gut, how stable do you think the release is gonna be? I'd love to hit release day, download the game, and import the league and carry on with it. I know there will be bugs to squash but if they're minor I could live with that. I know any way you answer this question can be taken the wrong way or out of context later but I'm just looking for what you think in your heart.

[bleachercreature]

OK, so no rainouts. That's a disapoinment. Rain outs are part of the game. The fact that rained out games create a mess of the schedule is part of the game. It certainly played a part in the Yankees sweeping away the Red Sox last August. I believe the Sox had played 21 games in 20 days, and combined with some injuries, they were spent going into that series.

Now for the question, on what we will have. The decission to rest the aging cneter field, due to wet conditions is mentioned in the blog. Does that mean, you will find out in pregame screens what the weather is? If I recall in prvious versions you found out it was raining when the pxp guy mentioned it as the game was starting.

In spite of the no rainouts, the pluses seem to far outweigh the negatives for 2007.

[Raidergoo]

Originally Posted by Kemp

So then I'd like to confirm that Lat/Long have nothing to do with the weather. From the last blog, it sounds like the weather effects will all come from that csv weather file.

Right. You can, in theory, put a city in Iceland and give it the weather of Miami.

[Curtis]

Originally Posted by kagnew35

Online leagues that sim a week at a time could use a 7 day forcast of weather to set 7 day lineups. Any chance of having this?

Where I live they can't forecast the weather twelve hours in advance (example: yesterday morning — predicted 5-10" snow followed by 1/2-3/4" of ice — actual 1" rain). You want a seven day?

[RchW]

Originally Posted by Curtis

Where I live they can't forecast the weather twelve hours in advance (example: yesterday morning — predicted 5-10" snow followed by 1/2-3/4" of ice — actual 1" rain). You want a seven day?

Roffle

I was stranded in Detroit Thursday. We took off for Toronto based on reports of light snow. Had to return to Detroit when Toronto airport could not clear 4" of ice off the runway. Many passengers had better info from calls to relatives than the friggin airline.

[Muzamba]

Originally Posted by battists

No rainouts. Rainouts totally wreak havoc with schedules, which are already one of the most difficult aspects of the game. It's just not worth the time (IMO) to code this to work properly. It would take days and days.

Ok, so what if there was an option to have rainouts or not? If one had rainouts turned on and a game was called due to inclement weather, the game would have to be rescheduled manually. Granted, it would be a challenge to find a spot in the schedule, but as long as we don't care if the schedule is realistic or not, we could simply plug it in on a random off-day or as part of a doubleheader. Just an idea that could add another important real-life element to the game for those of us that want it.

[Curtis]

Originally Posted by Muzamba

Ok, so what if there was an option to have rainouts or not? If one had rainouts turned on and a game was called due to inclement weather, the game would have to be rescheduled manually.

I now expect five guys to post in telling you all the rules for rescheduling that you should (in their opinion, have to) follow. Like never going more than 21 days without a day off. And not playing purple-jerseyed teams on Tuesday.

[Raidergoo]

Originally Posted by Curtis

I now expect five guys to post in telling you all the rules for rescheduling that you should (in their opinion, have to) follow. Like never going more than 21 days without a day off. And not playing purple-jerseyed teams on Tuesday.

That boat sailed a long time ago.

[Le Grande Orange]

Originally Posted by btheflash

No games cancelled due to rain?

No, sorry, that'd be a major undertaking to do properly. The schedule implications are a lot more complicated than it might appear at first.

I could launch into a discussion as to the reasons why, which would include such things as changing postponement rates over the years or rules variations, but it'd bore everyone to tears so I won't do that.

Originally Posted by Curtis

I now expect five guys to post in telling you all the rules for rescheduling that you should (in their opinion, have to) follow. Like never going more than 21 days without a day off.

I doubt there'd be five guys doing that. More like one... me.

There is one immediate smaller issue with teams playing different numbers of game — the magic number calculations. It uses the scheduled number of games, so if you have teams playing different numbers of games you won't get the correct magic number.

[Muzamba]

Originally Posted by Curtis

I now expect five guys to post in telling you all the rules for rescheduling that you should (in their opinion, have to) follow. Like never going more than 21 days without a day off. And not playing purple-jerseyed teams on Tuesday.

LOL. Yeah, I suppose this would seem rather blasphemous to scheduling purists. But hey, if there was indeed an option to have a handful of games rained-out and/or suspended, the burden of rescheduling would rest purely on the simmer. So if scheduling realism is important enough, one can take the time to do it accurately. But if you're more interested in the strategy of shuffling your lineup and pitching rotation because of a called game, you could toss caution to the wind and just plug it in wherever.

[Le Grande Orange]

Originally Posted by bleachercreature

The fact that rained out games create a mess of the schedule is part of the game.

True. But it is a mostly unknown fact that the rate at which schedules are messed up now is half of what it was thirty years ago, and one-sixth or lower than what it was eighty years ago. Add to that historical schedules which contain many more doubleheaders to begin with, and the complications begin to increase quickly.

Don't get me wrong, it's a feature I'd love to see, but I also know how complicated it'd be to handle. It's something best tackled with a lot of careful forethought.

[Kemp]

Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Quote:
Originally Posted by Kemp
Players might want to stay closer to "home"?

Bingo!

Out of curiosity, how "sensitive" is this feature? For example, say I wanted to have a league all in one small area (like the state of New Jersey), would the long/lat coordinates matter there since they'll only be off by a little bit from city to city?

[Le Grande Orange]

Originally Posted by Muzamba

But hey, if there was indeed an option to have a handful of games rained-out and/or suspended, the burden of rescheduling would rest purely on the simmer. So if scheduling realism is important enough, one can take the time to do it accurately. But if you're more interested in the strategy of shuffling your lineup and pitching rotation because of a called game, you could toss caution to the wind and just plug it in wherever.

But you can't just have your own team's games subject to postponement. All the other teams in the league should be subject to postponements as well. That'd mean you'd have to reschedule all their games too. I can guarantee after you've rescheduled the 20th or 30th postponed game of the season you'd start finding a manual rescheduling process incredibly tedious.

It's best to have postponements and reschedulements handled automatically by the game so the player doesn't have to worry about it, much in the same way that historical league playes don't have to worry about making team nickname changes and franchise moves and such manually anymore. An automatic process makes it easier on the player.

It's getting to that automatic postponement/reschedulement system that works well which is the difficult trick.

[BusterKing]

I belive the Tony Larussa Baseball game had double headers, games cancelled due to rain.