Positional Strength

[neojonas]

I've been looking at Positional Strength reports and I just want to make sure I understand them correctly. To see what I'm talking about look at this screenshot:
http://www.ootpbaseball.net/graphics//images/1638.jpg

So under Catchers I see the Los Angeles Eels have the top catching in the league. Their top catcher is Robert Mueller. Is the Los Angeles Eels team ranking based on the ranks of all their major league catchers? So for exmaple let's say they have Robert Mueller who for this example is rated 8/10 (just made up ratings for this example). And they have a backup catcher on their major league team who's rated 7/10. The 2nd team (San Jose) has Gary Hughes who let's say is rated 9/10 but their backup catcher is only rated 1/10. So their team rank would be lower then Los Angeles. Is that how it works or is the team rank just based on their top starter?

Also, is "Organizational Ranking" just the minor leagues combined rank and "Overall Ranking" the combined Organizational and Team rankings?

[Solonor]

Originally Posted by neojonas

I've been looking at Positional Strength reports and I just want to make sure I understand them correctly. To see what I'm talking about look at this screenshot:
http://www.ootpbaseball.net/graphics//images/1638.jpg

So under Catchers I see the Los Angeles Eels have the top catching in the league. Their top catcher is Robert Mueller. Is the Los Angeles Eels team ranking based on the ranks of all their major league catchers? So for exmaple let's say they have Robert Mueller who for this example is rated 8/10 (just made up ratings for this example). And they have a backup catcher on their major league team who's rated 7/10. The 2nd team (San Jose) has Gary Hughes who let's say is rated 9/10 but their backup catcher is only rated 1/10. So their team rank would be lower then Los Angeles. Is that how it works or is the team rank just based on their top starter?

Also, is "Organizational Ranking" just the minor leagues combined rank and "Overall Ranking" the combined Organizational and Team rankings?

You are dead on in your assessment.

In my opinion, this report is nice but it's mis-labeled. It is does not tell you positional strengths for a team, because it does not include all of the information you need to make that determination. It tells you who's got the best catcher, not the best catching.

It looks like it's telling you that the Eels have the best catching in the league, but that's not what it's saying. It's saying they have the best starting catcher in the league. The "Organizational Ranking" just says that their top catching prospect is the 12th best catching prospect in the league. And the "Overall Ranking" is a combination of the two.

It needs to take into account all of the players with catcher ratings in the organization in order for you to know if you've got catching covered or if you've just got a superstar with no backup and a single-A hotshot that might be ready in a few years but no one else in the organization that can catch!

I have already reported this as an issue, but it's probably not going to be addressed before release day. Still, it's a pretty looking report...

[neojonas]

Ahh ok that clears it up a lot for me. I hope someday it takes into account all the catchers, etc in the organization, but like you said it's still a very pretty report.

[statfreak]

Originally Posted by Solonor

You are dead on in your assessment.

In my opinion, this report is nice but it's mis-labeled. It is does not tell you positional strengths for a team, because it does not include all of the information you need to make that determination. It tells you who's got the best catcher, not the best catching.

It looks like it's telling you that the Eels have the best catching in the league, but that's not what it's saying. It's saying they have the best starting catcher in the league. The "Organizational Ranking" just says that their top catching prospect is the 12th best catching prospect in the league. And the "Overall Ranking" is a combination of the two.

It needs to take into account all of the players with catcher ratings in the organization in order for you to know if you've got catching covered or if you've just got a superstar with no backup and a single-A hotshot that might be ready in a few years but no one else in the organization that can catch!

I have already reported this as an issue, but it's probably not going to be addressed before release day. Still, it's a pretty looking report...

in that case wouldn't the report give a team with two 6/10 catchers a higher ranking than a team with an 8/10 and 3/10 catcher? I kind of like how the report is set up now FWIW.

[battists]

Just so we're clear on this, I'm going to clarify this with Markus. Will get back to you.

[Joe Canadian]

Ok, now I'm confused. The OP said that he thinks the ranking is based on all players on your team at that position, then the second poster says that he is right... but then says that the ranking is just based on the best player.

[battists]

Originally Posted by Joe Canadian

Ok, now I'm confused. The OP said that he thinks the ranking is based on all players on your team at that position, then the second poster says that he is right... but then says that the ranking is just based on the best player.

Wait until tomorrow. I'll get the "definitive answer," and maybe even get the @#($* report labels clarified.

Whatever it ends up being, it will also be in the in-game help for that report!!

Steve

[disposableheros]

IIRC, Markus confirmed that 'top player' & 'team ranking' is for the team's best player in majors, 'top prospect' & 'organizational ranking' is for the team's best player under 25, and 'overall' is the combined rating.

[Solonor]

TT 945, just FYI. (It was marked "Ignore" after some discussion. I surrendered after that.)