TRTR : Day 13

Marc Duffy · 03-08-2007, 01:59 PM

Drafting

By Ronco.

Antonio Mota was a bull of a kid even back in 2009 when he was drafted by the New York Attack. He was tall for his 18 years of age, but already carried 225 of what would eventually become his 229 pounds.

http://www.ootpbaseball.net/clubhous...gid=26&id=1289

marc · 03-08-2007, 02:00 PM

First!

marc · 03-08-2007, 02:00 PM

Dola,

I was just about to post that Day 13 needs to be posted because I'm losing my mind.

zekester91 · 03-08-2007, 02:02 PM

did we ever get TRTR : Day 12 fixed?

Marc Duffy · 03-08-2007, 02:06 PM

If you mean the screenshots, no still waiting on someone to fix the script

kagnew35 · 03-08-2007, 02:13 PM

Great news on drafting

Hotwheelz · 03-08-2007, 02:30 PM

This has me very excited! Now I really cant wait for the 23rd

ctorg · 03-08-2007, 02:32 PM

Sounds great.

CHOWDERHEAD · 03-08-2007, 03:05 PM

Great information. I have been very impressed with the last few blogs - very good stuff.

skywalkr2 · 03-08-2007, 03:36 PM

Has anyone did a moden day analysis of hall of famers by round drafted? That would be interesting to see...

Subby · 03-08-2007, 04:00 PM

Ron - how does the compare with your findings in previous versions of ootp?

RonCo · 03-08-2007, 04:00 PM

Yes. 've looked at the MLB Hall of Fame as my comparison. It's hard to use as a baseline because so few of the current day Hall of Fame have come during the time of the draft, meaning the sample size is very small. My personal guess is that after the dust settled, OOTP drafts will be a few percent weighted toward the upper rounds when compared to MLB. But it's too close to call right now.

I've seen OOTP leagues with as few as 40% HoF coming from the first round, and as high as 61%...for what that's worth.

RonCo · 03-08-2007, 04:03 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Subby

Ron - how does the compare with your findings in previous versions of ootp?

Previous versions were a little more front loaded--v2006 in particular. I've also been testing a few things related to the use of MLEs that might allow leagues to provide for more variance. Too early to tell on that, though.

waltwa · 03-08-2007, 04:17 PM

The first thing i do when i take over a team whether it be online or solo is to clear out all the deadweight minor leaguers. I think i will take a good look at that process in the future.

battists · 03-08-2007, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waltwa

The first thing i do when i take over a team whether it be online or solo is to clear out all the deadweight minor leaguers. I think i will take a good look at that process in the future.

There is absolutely more chance in 2007 that your 16th round draft pick will blossom into a star.

Subby · 03-08-2007, 04:23 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RonCo

Previous versions were a little more front loaded--v2006 in particular. I've also been testing a few things related to the use of MLEs that might allow leagues to provide for more variance. Too early to tell on that, though.

You are a huge asset to the development of this game.

Thanks.

RonCo · 03-08-2007, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by waltwa

The first thing i do when i take over a team whether it be online or solo is to clear out all the deadweight minor leaguers. I think i will take a good look at that process in the future.

If you have room to play a minor leaguer, and they are age-appropriate, it is never valuable to get rid of him. OOTPs dev engine's random nature means that _everyone_ has a shot at being great, but the probability of greatness is not equal in all.

No Pepper · 03-08-2007, 04:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by skywalkr2

Has anyone did a moden day analysis of hall of famers by round drafted? That would be interesting to see...

As of 2005, according to the Hall of Fame, only 2 that have been drafted in the first round have made the Hall: Robin Yount (3rd overall) and Dave Winfield (4th pick) in the 1973 draft. ***EDIT*** Hmmm Puckett is in, so that's 3. And Paul Molitor, which is 4. Does the Hall know it's players???

http://www.baseballhalloffame.org/hi...005/050610.htm Either way, I always look forward to the work you do RonCo.

RonCo · 03-08-2007, 04:35 PM

Give real life about 5 years to accumulate more players who were drafted, and I think we'll probably find a fairly flat sweet spot for the Hall from rounds 1-4, then a tail off. Just my guess, though. Like I said, real life sample size is too small to draw comparisons from. 90%+ of the inductees were signed directly, not drafted.

RonCo · 03-08-2007, 04:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by No Pepper

As of 2005, according to the Hall of Fame, only 2 that have been drafted in the first round have made the Hall: Robin Yount (3rd overall) and Dave Winfield (4th pick) in the 1973 draft. ***EDIT*** Hmmm Puckett is in, so that's 3. And Paul Molitor, which is 4. Does the Hall know it's players???

Carlton Fisk. [edit: and if I rememebr right, Reggie Jackson was, too.]

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RonCo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 5,470	Yes. 've looked at the MLB Hall of Fame as my comparison. It's hard to use as a baseline because so few of the current day Hall of Fame have come during the time of the draft, meaning the sample size is very small. My personal guess is that after the dust settled, OOTP drafts will be a few percent weighted toward the upper rounds when compared to MLB. But it's too close to call right now. I've seen OOTP leagues with as few as 40% HoF coming from the first round, and as high as 61%...for what that's worth. Last edited by RonCo : 03-08-2007 at 04:05 PM.

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RonCo Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 5,470	Give real life about 5 years to accumulate more players who were drafted, and I think we'll probably find a fairly flat sweet spot for the Hall from rounds 1-4, then a tail off. Just my guess, though. Like I said, real life sample size is too small to draw comparisons from. 90%+ of the inductees were signed directly, not drafted.

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