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Old 03-09-2007, 01:40 PM   #21 (permalink)
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Cool. It seems to have been written by someone who is actually familiar with the game. I recall reading a review of a past version where someone complained about a missing element or two that were actually in the game.
It's funny, I got the opposite impression. The references to OOTPB 2006 struck me as hearsay or a weird third person usage. It seems that he didn't play it much but just "knew' that it was not that good.

However, at the risk of contradicting myself, he nailed it in his summary paragraph:

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Although it still looks like it's being catered to baseball stat fanatics, Out of the Park Baseball 2007 is shaping up to be one of the most realistic and elaborate simulation games to date. Learning from last year's mistakes, the team behind Out of the Park is promising a lot of improvements which really seem to be coming through in the preview build we played.
Note to Marc Duffy; perhaps a blog should be written to emphasize that a simple MLB model with three levels of minor leagues is easy to set up for the non-stat fanatic.
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Old 03-09-2007, 01:42 PM   #22 (permalink)
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Mogul has been, and always will be a 5 year old's sim. It is designed to be cheap and mass produced with no creative like OOTP. Long live the king!
Mogul's news stories blow away ootp for whatever it's worth
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I used to play BM as well... BACK in 1997!! I have grown up since then
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Old 03-09-2007, 01:45 PM   #24 (permalink)
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Mogul's news stories blow away ootp for whatever it's worth
Yeah, 5 minutes until you discover they repeat themselves every month
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Mogul's news stories blow away ootp for whatever it's worth
well, to me, its not worth the price of Baseball Mogul
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Yeah, 5 minutes until you discover they repeat themselves every month

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Often times I think p/reviews are better done by people completely new to a game. If you're already familiar with a game you're probably going to rely more on the opinion of hardcore users. I think p/reviews on sites like this cater more to prospective customers and for them it's probably better to read the opinion of someone similar to themselves. Otherwise you're more reading about improvements over a previous version which really doesn't register for you when what you're looking for is more of an overall feel and answer to whether the game is actually fun. I didn't get that message from this article. It didn't even seem like he thought about trying to answer that question.
I was thinking more from an angle of "at least he didn't say anything factually incorrect about the game simply because he didn't discover how do do something in the ten minutes he played," which is how some past reviews of the game have seemed to me.
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Mogul's news stories blow away ootp for whatever it's worth
Can you post some examples? Just curious, I've never seen them.
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Can you post some examples? Just curious, I've never seen them.
From what I remember they well written and very detailed, but they are constantly re-used, so you will keep reading them again and again. Think of them as similar to the old scouting reports in ootp, only longer.
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From what I remember they well written and very detailed, but they are constantly re-used, so you will keep reading them again and again. Think of them as similar to the old scouting reports in ootp, only longer.
they probably are reused but they have pictures of the players and game or season specific stats incorporated in the stories. keep in mind i'm comparing them to ootp6 or 6.5, as i haven't seen the new ones in 2007. it gives it a newspaper feel, which is nice
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Yeah, 5 minutes until you discover they repeat themselves every month
kinda like ootp scouting reports?
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they probably are reused but they have pictures of the players and game or season specific stats incorporated in the stories. keep in mind i'm comparing them to ootp6 or 6.5, as i haven't seen the new ones in 2007. it gives it a newspaper feel, which is nice
I agree the newspaper feel was nice...
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there is something to be said about simming 100 years in 49 seconds, even if the results arent perfectly realistic.

personally, i think BM is excellent for what it is trying to be - a casual, cheap, simulator for a sports fan. its not meant to cater to a hardcore baseball rule/stat freak.
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"It still has some stiff competition in the form of the Baseball Mogul series"

The reviewer wrote that, but does anyone here actually believe that? I just can't see it.
Well, I was gonna go check out that review, but that quote leaves me thinking that this guy doesn't have much of a clue.
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" It was no surprise that last year's OOTP was a great game with plenty of new additions, "

THAT's the line that lost me
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"It still has some stiff competition in the form of the Baseball Mogul series"

The reviewer wrote that, but does anyone here actually believe that? I just can't see it.
I think it might be true. They gave BM 2006 a 9.1/10.
http://www.worthplaying.com/article.php?sid=33770
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kinda like ootp scouting reports?

Lol, I compared them to the scouting reports a few posts up ;-)
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I think it might be true. They gave BM 2006 a 9.1/10.
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