Worthplaying.com preview of OOTP 2007

[Go Tribe]

Originally Posted by battists

Can you post some examples? Just curious, I've never seen them.

http://www.sportsmogul.com/baseballc...dlines-big.jpg

[battists]

Originally Posted by Go Tribe

http://www.sportsmogul.com/baseballc...dlines-big.jpg

Hmm, OK, that's a fine article, but do you have any specific things that make it much different from OOTP?

Here's one from 2007, sorry the screenshot sucks:

[Claymore]

Originally Posted by battists

Hmm, OK, that's a fine article, but do you have any specific things that make it much different from OOTP?

Here's one from 2007, sorry the screenshot sucks:

In OOTP, it appears as a standard email. In BM, it appears as a newsletter, containing all other like articles (I believe there is a newsletter each week, but I am not sure, have not played BM in ages). It is just a bit more visually pleasing in BM, in my opinion...

Puresim does something similar, producing a newsletter every 2 weeks containing various facts, but less fluff than BM.

[Go Tribe]

Originally Posted by battists

Hmm, OK, that's a fine article, but do you have any specific things that make it much different from OOTP?

Here's one from 2007, sorry the screenshot sucks:

it's similar but again i haven't played 2007 - turn that email into a newspaper headline and you'd have a sure winner

[Raidergoo]

Originally Posted by battists

Hmm, OK, that's a fine article, but do you have any specific things that make it much different from OOTP?

Here's one from 2007, sorry the screenshot sucks:

Hey Steve, I think I even sent you a mock up on this topic last fall.

EDIT

I found that I had two of them on the server already, and here they are.

[battists]

Looks good. I'll certainly help lead the charge for something like this in 2008. For this year, I think you'll find 2007's news articles improved over 2006's, but there's definitely room for improvement, especially in presentation.

Anyway, feedback always welcomed, thanks for the link GoTribe.

[The Wolf]

Originally Posted by treedom

Well, I was gonna go check out that review, but that quote leaves me thinking that this guy doesn't have much of a clue.

That was my conclusion too.

[yajeflow]

[quote=sfeldkamp;2091302]I hate to be picky, but you don't "recruit" feeder league players, you draft them. There is a world of difference.QUOTE]


respectfully - this is not so. the dictionary definition is, "to secure the services of...", and, "to fill up the number of (as an army) with new members".

the method of recruiting players onto a major league organization is via the draft and FA signings on non-US/CAN/PR players.

[RBLwebguy]

Originally Posted by Go Tribe

http://www.sportsmogul.com/baseballc...dlines-big.jpg

Other than the visual layout, the story itself isn't all that different or better than anything we have produced

[kq76]

With regard to whether the stories should be in an email or newspaper layout, I think a good compromise would be to just make it like you see on any major sports news website or even most newspaper's websites. For example:

http://www.sportsnet.ca/baseball/art...09_174659_6848
and
http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn...030702385.html.

It would also go with the rest of the browser look.

The emails are rather lame. Who reads sports stories in emails? Maybe if you subscribe to team news to your email or something. But probably the biggest thing they're missing is a good pic to go along with the story. That and nice big headers.

Another positive about newspapers are they're easy to read because they use narrow columns and while sports news sites don't have as narrow columns, they make sure they don't run the width of the screen. The emails can be rather wide.

BM's newspaper layout isn't bad (it's better than OOTP's emails), but it just seems odd to me. Major newspapers don't even try to make their websites look like their newspapers. Similar, yes, but not exact. A computer screen is a different medium than a newspaper and it calls for a slightly different layout.

That said, I like Raidergoo's "2.pdf". Even if it was meant to look like a newspaper, it looks like something I would see on a sports news website; it doesn't look like something trying to look like a real life newspaper but falling short of the mark. The only thing is I don't like that top right box of text in an outlined box, but that was probably just overlooked minor detail.

P.S. Don't get rid of emails entirely. I think they have their place for personal messages, they're just not for stories.

[enuttage]

Originally Posted by kq76

P.S. Don't get rid of emails entirely. I think they have their place for personal messages, they're just not for stories.

Might thin out the staggering volume of 'e-mails', too, which I'm all for. Good idea. Actually, a lot of good ideas in here.

[The Wolf]

Yeah, 2006 had way too many emails. By about a factor of ten.

[Kaitiaki]

Originally Posted by The Wolf

Yeah, 2006 had way too many emails. By about a factor of ten.

Even if you changed your news subscription setting (under Manager Options)?

- Kai

[Queensryche]

It still boggles my mind how Baseball Mogul can even be compared to OOTP.

Baseball Mogul is the game that I first found that was ALL about managing. I used to do it with the old Front Page Sports games,but they weren't really designed for that purpose. Then I found the Baseball Mogul demo in PC Gamer when it first came out. LOVED IT and went on to buy the original Baseball Mogul,which I hear is really rare now, 99 version,and the 2000 version.

I started getting bored with the lack of options,so I looked elsewhere and found OOTP 3 RIGHT before it was about to be released. Never have looked back.

Baseball Mogul is a great game to get you started in these type of sims,but OOTP is the next step.

OOTP has blown Mogul out of the water for 6 years straight in my eyes,even the flawed 2006 was much better than any mogul in the last 6 years. 2007 will have no equal,it will be the king of the stat based simulation. IMO.

[battists]

Fanboy.

[Queensryche]

Originally Posted by battists

Fanboy.

Maybe a little,but the facts are the facts.

[The Wolf]

Originally Posted by battists

Fanboy.

So that's how it is. It's okay if you use the word.

Harrumph.

[The Wolf]

Originally Posted by Queensryche

OOTP has blown Mogul out of the water

Dola, I'd admit to agreeing with you but if I did then Battists would would call me a fanboy and I'd fall over from the irony.

[Go Tribe]

Originally Posted by Queensryche

It still boggles my mind how Baseball Mogul can even be compared to OOTP.

Baseball Mogul is the game that I first found that was ALL about managing. I used to do it with the old Front Page Sports games,but they weren't really designed for that purpose. Then I found the Baseball Mogul demo in PC Gamer when it first came out. LOVED IT and went on to buy the original Baseball Mogul,which I hear is really rare now, 99 version,and the 2000 version.

I started getting bored with the lack of options,so I looked elsewhere and found OOTP 3 RIGHT before it was about to be released. Never have looked back.

Baseball Mogul is a great game to get you started in these type of sims,but OOTP is the next step.

OOTP has blown Mogul out of the water for 6 years straight in my eyes,even the flawed 2006 was much better than any mogul in the last 6 years. 2007 will have no equal,it will be the king of the stat based simulation. IMO.

true but every sport sim game out there probably does at least ONE thing better than ootp and there's nothing wrong with trying to incorporate the best of everything (without blatantly ripping them off) into one package. if markus was able to take these story emails out of the inbox and into something like a "around the league" section, it would probably be well received and maybe it wouldn't be that hard since the news generation algorithms are already built - they would just have to increase the title font, maybe add a picture and make it available to see somewhere else besides the inbox

[Killebrew]

Originally Posted by RchW

Note to Marc Duffy; perhaps a blog should be written to emphasize that a simple MLB model with three levels of minor leagues is easy to set up for the non-stat fanatic.

I'm hoping there is some early focus put on encouraging users to start off simple when they play v2007 so they won't be overwhelmed early on. I suspect many fans of OOTP99-v6.5 will never try anything beyond 3 minor league levels.

Another recommendation, especially for new users, is to turn scouts/coaches off until you get used to the game. I'm also going advise CDL users to try and avoid finding screens via the drop-down menu's as much as possible, and try run their teams exclusively from the very user friendly Manager Home page. That screen is the cornerstone of the v2007 UI improvement, so much so I think it would be wise for OOTP to remove some of the other menu options in future releases in order to keep focus on that screen.

In one way it's great to have 2-6 different methods of reaching the same game screen, but in another, more realistic & user friendly way it seems to me it's better to reduce these many menu options as they can psyche new users out initially and make the UI appear far more complex than it really is.