TRTR : Day 14

Marc Duffy · 03-09-2007, 05:25 PM

Historical Finances

According to baseball-reference.com, Alex Rodriguez made $21,680,727 last year, an astronomical sum for a baseball player.

http://www.ootpbaseball.net/clubhous...gid=26&id=1291

battists · 03-09-2007, 05:38 PM

First!

Claymore · 03-09-2007, 05:41 PM

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Originally Posted by battists

First!

Second, and I have no affiliation with the company!!!

ChuckkieB · 03-09-2007, 05:57 PM

Third, just like whenever I take over an OOTP team!

ChuckkieB · 03-09-2007, 05:58 PM

Oops! Double post.......

marc · 03-09-2007, 06:05 PM

zukes · 03-09-2007, 06:29 PM

check

coolpeter72 · 03-09-2007, 06:38 PM

I may have to adjust my financial plans for my team. I am going to start getting used to 2007 by being the Yankees. I may have to adjust 270 million dollars including personal for my team. Maybe I should go up to a billion dollar for my infield.

Thank You for the site on where I can get recent baseball salaries. This may help some to make it somewhat more realistic if I want to.

Oh never mind I could have 4 Albert's for the grand total of a mere 56 million using his 2006 salary.

There is only one problem there is only one Albert in the world.

I am going to use this setup for one season only though so I think I will have four Albert's in my infield. Boy that would not be very realistic.

I guess I will have to settle for three. He has played third, left, and first before in his career.

You might be thinking the Cardinals are getting a real bargain by paying Pujols only 14 million a year. Albert has deferred some of his total salary to be paid in one million dollar increments until 2025 if I remember correctly. This was in part so the Cardinals had some extra money to bring in a player that they thought might help them win the world series.

Curtis · 03-11-2007, 01:43 AM

The only thing that puzzles me is, who is this 'raidergoo' guy? Why are all these blogs by unknowns?

Sounds like an alias.

Raidergoo · 03-11-2007, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by Curtis

The only thing that puzzles me is, who is this 'raidergoo' guy? Why are all these blogs by unknowns?

Sounds like an alias.

Heh.

Kaitiaki · 03-11-2007, 10:19 AM

Yeah, that dude needs to post more. Seriously.

- Kai

The Wolf · 03-11-2007, 01:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Curtis

The only thing that puzzles me is, who is this 'raidergoo' guy? Why are all these blogs by unknowns? Sounds like an alias.

Well, "raider" is obviously an Oakland reference, and "goo" is nasty stuff, so to figure out whose alias it is all you have to do is to find someone on this board who is from Oakland and is kind of nasty.

Raidergoo · 03-11-2007, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by The Wolf

Well, "raider" is obviously an Oakland reference, and "goo" is nasty stuff, so to figure out whose alias it is all you have to do is to find someone on this board who is from Oakland and is kind of nasty.

raider is a Wright State University reference, you know, the school that beat Butler the other day?

goo is an all purpose verb

A + B = raidergoo

Hey, it was a dark and stormy night, and I blame the Solaris machine in the basement labs of the library. I went to WSU before they named the library after Paul Lawrence Dunbar, so I still call it "the library".

The Wolf · 03-11-2007, 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Raidergoo

raider is a Wright State University reference, you know, the school that beat Butler the other day?

goo is an all purpose verb

Butler Elementary in Phoenix? I went there from 3rd to 5th grade. Small world.

As to "goo," don't go look up what it means at the Urban Dictionary whatever you do.

Raidergoo · 03-11-2007, 03:32 PM

Oh, hush, or I'll sing the alma mater to you. That's a fate worse than having a chimp thrwon at you.

gohorns98 · 03-11-2007, 04:20 PM

I have a quick though about coefficients. Should the coeffiecients change each year or should they stay at 1.00? I kind of see these as an exchange rate with the current value of the dollar. The problem comes with the idea that when they change all salaries in the league adjust accordingly. Let's say a team signs a superstar in 1929 to a 10 year $150,000 per year salary. If the coeffiecients change then the salary will drop as the Great Depression take effect. What I want is the team to suffer through the Great Depression with the high salary they gave the player. Therefore, the coefficient should remain 1.00 throughout the history of the league. The financials of the league should and can be dictated by attendance and avg. ticket price. The advantage of the OOTP financials that other factors can be controled (Salary for a Super Star, Avg. Player, and Minimum).

What do you all think?

The Wolf · 03-11-2007, 04:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Raidergoo

Oh, hush, or I'll sing the alma mater to you. That's a fate worse than having a chimp thrwon at you.

I'm feeling fearless. Besides, I was told that you must be Rizon's alias.

Curtis · 03-11-2007, 07:51 PM

Since gohorns is trying to be serious, I'll try, too.

Raiderguy, are the salaries based on a coefficient, or direct input? By this, I'm asking whether you use a complete new set of salary figures for each year, or if you just have one set that gets modified by a different coefficient each year?

I'm not happy with the ratios between the different salary levels in 2006. I alter them so that the three upper levels get less money and the next three get more (the average guys). If you use a coefficient then I can input my own values during league creation and they'll vary up and down in lockstep as the years go by. If you enter new numbers every year, I'm better off just not having my financials change at all as time goes by.

Also, are your minimum and average salaries based on the actual values from those eras (maybe slightly adjusted), or do they derive solely from your formula modification of the present day numbers?

Raidergoo · 03-11-2007, 07:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Curtis

Since gohorns is trying to be serious, I'll try, too.

Raiderguy, are the salaries based on a coefficient, or direct input? By this, I'm asking whether you use a complete new set of salary figures for each year, or if you just have one set that gets modified by a different coefficient each year?

I'm not happy with the ratios between the different salary levels in 2006. I alter them so that the three upper levels get less money and the next three get more (the average guys). If you use a coefficient then I can input my own values during league creation and they'll vary up and down in lockstep as the years go by. If you enter new numbers every year, I'm better off just not having my financials change at all as time goes by.

Also, are your minimum and average salaries based on the actual values from those eras (maybe slightly adjusted), or do they derive solely from your formula modification of the present day numbers?

They are specific values read from a text file for every variable. The coefficient is not changed.

If you do not like the spread of salaries, you can get them into excel the way you like it, and overwrite the existing data, and have your own data read into the game.

All this does is translate modern financials into a historic number. Underneath, it is still a modern wage curve.

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coolpeter72 Minors (Single A) Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 68	I may have to adjust my financial plans for my team. I am going to start getting used to 2007 by being the Yankees. I may have to adjust 270 million dollars including personal for my team. Maybe I should go up to a billion dollar for my infield. Thank You for the site on where I can get recent baseball salaries. This may help some to make it somewhat more realistic if I want to. Oh never mind I could have 4 Albert's for the grand total of a mere 56 million using his 2006 salary. There is only one problem there is only one Albert in the world. I am going to use this setup for one season only though so I think I will have four Albert's in my infield. Boy that would not be very realistic. I guess I will have to settle for three. He has played third, left, and first before in his career. You might be thinking the Cardinals are getting a real bargain by paying Pujols only 14 million a year. Albert has deferred some of his total salary to be paid in one million dollar increments until 2025 if I remember correctly. This was in part so the Cardinals had some extra money to bring in a player that they thought might help them win the world series.

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gohorns98 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Flower Mound, TX Posts: 104	I have a quick though about coefficients. Should the coeffiecients change each year or should they stay at 1.00? I kind of see these as an exchange rate with the current value of the dollar. The problem comes with the idea that when they change all salaries in the league adjust accordingly. Let's say a team signs a superstar in 1929 to a 10 year $150,000 per year salary. If the coeffiecients change then the salary will drop as the Great Depression take effect. What I want is the team to suffer through the Great Depression with the high salary they gave the player. Therefore, the coefficient should remain 1.00 throughout the history of the league. The financials of the league should and can be dictated by attendance and avg. ticket price. The advantage of the OOTP financials that other factors can be controled (Salary for a Super Star, Avg. Player, and Minimum). What do you all think? __________________ My contribution to the greater OOTP Community. Minor League Team and League History 1876-2006 Excel Version CSV Version

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