I feel I must publicly say this

Cooleyvol · 03-13-2007, 07:19 AM

I absolutley hated 2006. I made that clear.

After 30 minutes with the preview last night, I offer these initial thoughts:

This game is light years ahead of 06.

The UI, while still relatively close to last year's UI, does not give me the troubles it did.

The sim speed ZOOMS!

The life of an online commish is back to the ease with which it was carried out with v6.xx.

FaceGen has taken this game to a new level.

I've taken my 1908 Pro Circuit to the new version and used the era specific settings/financial button to get superb results in a matter of seconds.

This is definitely the version we all (me for sure) have been wanting since 6.5.

So, in short, if you're on the fence, get off of it. We've arrived in Xanadu.

If we can get league histories to import somehow, I can now uninstall all past versions.

Kudos to Markus and all who have worked/tested this game. You've done a wonderful job.

And now...............I've got all day today to play with this gem!

BruceM · 03-13-2007, 07:26 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cooleyvol

So, in short, if you're on the fence, get off of it.

I'm glad to hear you've found happiness Mark, however the decision to "get off the fence" (as so many who've previewed the game are saying) will made by me when I get to try the game.

The old saying "Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me" very much applies to SI right now.

Cooleyvol · 03-13-2007, 07:29 AM

Understood, Bruce................that's just my opinion. YMMV

Recte44 · 03-13-2007, 07:41 AM

Mark,

Thanks for the praise! I'm glad you're back in the fold.

D Love · 03-13-2007, 07:50 AM

You mention league history import... but wasn't there a way to import league history into 2006 so that a conversion to 2007 would bring league history with it?

I thought I read that before, but I never bothered importing my 5.0 league to 2006 since I hated it and I also didn't want to lose league history.

The Wolf · 03-13-2007, 08:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BruceM

The old saying "Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me" very much applies to SI right now.

I'm with Bruce. The demo will make the decision for me.

Signs and feedback are very encouraging, however.

Kaitiaki · 03-13-2007, 08:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by D Love

You mention league history import... but wasn't there a way to import league history into 2006 so that a conversion to 2007 would bring league history with it?

I thought I read that before, but I never bothered importing my 5.0 league to 2006 since I hated it and I also didn't want to lose league history.

The conversion from OOTP6 always brought player stats with it. There was a utility released last year to bring the player histories (the text-based stuff) along as well.

What neither of those two addressed was Catobase, the most powerful/popular history tool that OOTP6 had, which leagues had to "leave behind" because it wasn't supported by OOTP2006 (and Jeff Cato isn't around to create new versions of it).

- Kai

The Wolf · 03-13-2007, 08:43 AM

What happened to Jeff Cato?

legendsport · 03-13-2007, 08:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cooleyvol

I absolutley hated 2006. I made that clear.

After 30 minutes with the preview last night, I offer these initial thoughts:

This game is light years ahead of 06.

The UI, while still relatively close to last year's UI, does not give me the troubles it did.

The sim speed ZOOMS!

The life of an online commish is back to the ease with which it was carried out with v6.xx.

FaceGen has taken this game to a new level.

I've taken my 1908 Pro Circuit to the new version and used the era specific settings/financial button to get superb results in a matter of seconds.

This is definitely the version we all (me for sure) have been wanting since 6.5.

So, in short, if you're on the fence, get off of it. We've arrived in Xanadu.

If we can get league histories to import somehow, I can now uninstall all past versions.

Kudos to Markus and all who have worked/tested this game. You've done a wonderful job.

And now...............I've got all day today to play with this gem!

It'll be good to have you back full-time, Mark. I hope you can get Pro Circuit back up and running. I thought it was a very cool league and if I didn't have half-a-million projects of my own going on (as always) I'd have loved to have been a part of it.

ifspuds · 03-13-2007, 09:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Cooleyvol

I've taken my 1908 Pro Circuit to the new version and used the era specific settings/financial button to get superb results in a matter of seconds.

Here's one former Pro Circuit GM that thinks that's about the best news he's heard in weeks.

silvam14 · 03-13-2007, 09:38 AM

Glad to hear people are enjoying this version! It seems, Online, fictional, and historical can all agree that this is a great game for once! (sheds a tear)

Markus Heinsohn · 03-13-2007, 09:51 AM

Assos · 03-13-2007, 10:23 AM

Someone has been a drinking......

Autism Speaks · 03-13-2007, 10:57 AM

Glad to hear, Cooley.

BigCity · 03-13-2007, 11:31 AM

Sounds like you had a similar revelation Mark. Glad your feeling the same way. This version is a return to the original series - yet better.

OOTP '07 almost feels like I've hitched up with an old girlfriend (almost!)

Al

BusterKing · 03-13-2007, 11:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BruceM

The old saying "Fool me once shame on you, fool me twice shame on me" very much applies to SI right now.

I really don't understand how some of you can say that.

We all knew that 2006 was going to be a different game, no one ever claimed that it was going to be like the previous versions.

Not really fair to come up with that saying in my opinion.

Deft · 03-13-2007, 11:35 AM

When Cooleyvol gets on board it carries weight. Good to hear you like it!

Cooleyvol · 03-13-2007, 11:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Deft

When Cooleyvol gets on board it carries weight. Good to hear you like it!

I'm not sure about that, Deft...........perhaps for v3 and v4, but not so much now. Nevertheless, I think Markus has fixed the issues that I had with 2006. That's enough for me. Everyone can decide for themselves.

statfreak · 03-13-2007, 11:43 AM

I'm glad to see a more positive reaction from Cooley regarding OOTP. I didn't share his sentiments regarding 2006, but hope we have the same opinion of 2007!!

Oh, and for a lot of us, your opinion still counts!! I am glad you enjoyed the game. First Henry/BCB, now Cooleyvol... OOTP2007 must be a hell of a game to get those two guys back in the fold...

BruceM · 03-13-2007, 11:49 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BusterKing

I really don't understand how some of you can say that.

We all knew that 2006 was going to be a different game, no one ever claimed that it was going to be like the previous versions.

It has nothing to do with anyone claiming it would be the same and everything to do with failing to deliver on promises/hype. I expected it to resemble a baseball sim and to be reasonably user friendly, something it never did.

Quote:

Originally Posted by BusterKing

Not really fair to come up with that saying in my opinion.

I respect your opinion, please return the courtesy. It's very fair to say I was fooled once by SI. They didn't come close to delivering on what was promised, especially after all the hype.

They can hype 2007 all they like, same as they did 2006. I won't be fooled again this year.

03-13-2007, 07:19 AM	#1 (permalink)
Cooleyvol Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Woodland Mills, TN Posts: 4,144	I feel I must publicly say this I absolutley hated 2006. I made that clear. After 30 minutes with the preview last night, I offer these initial thoughts: This game is light years ahead of 06. The UI, while still relatively close to last year's UI, does not give me the troubles it did. The sim speed ZOOMS! The life of an online commish is back to the ease with which it was carried out with v6.xx. FaceGen has taken this game to a new level. I've taken my 1908 Pro Circuit to the new version and used the era specific settings/financial button to get superb results in a matter of seconds. This is definitely the version we all (me for sure) have been wanting since 6.5. So, in short, if you're on the fence, get off of it. We've arrived in Xanadu. If we can get league histories to import somehow, I can now uninstall all past versions. Kudos to Markus and all who have worked/tested this game. You've done a wonderful job. And now...............I've got all day today to play with this gem! __________________ Subscribe to Gridiron Glory Radio SEC Champions, 2006,2008-14 2008, 2011 National Runners-up 2009, 2010, 2012, 2013 National Champions Last edited by Cooleyvol : 03-13-2007 at 07:21 AM.

03-13-2007, 07:29 AM	#3 (permalink)
Cooleyvol Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Woodland Mills, TN Posts: 4,144	Understood, Bruce................that's just my opinion. YMMV __________________ Subscribe to Gridiron Glory Radio SEC Champions, 2006,2008-14 2008, 2011 National Runners-up 2009, 2010, 2012, 2013 National Champions

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Recte44 All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: West Allis, WI Posts: 1,567	Mark, Thanks for the praise! I'm glad you're back in the fold. __________________ Matt Rectenwald Commissioner, Owner: Milwaukee Braves, Other Reality Baseball 2 Recruiter, Owner: Pago Pago Coconuts

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03-13-2007, 09:38 AM	#11 (permalink)
silvam14 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Medford, MA Posts: 2,924	Glad to hear people are enjoying this version! It seems, Online, fictional, and historical can all agree that this is a great game for once! (sheds a tear) __________________ Check out my Fictional Uniform Project! http://s76.photobucket.com/albums/j1...007%20Jerseys/ Also, Check out my collection of Circular OOTP logos (Kudos to cephasjames for his original logos) http://s76.photobucket.com/albums/j10/silvam14/

03-13-2007, 07:50 AM	#5 (permalink)
D Love All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 876	You mention league history import... but wasn't there a way to import league history into 2006 so that a conversion to 2007 would bring league history with it? I thought I read that before, but I never bothered importing my 5.0 league to 2006 since I hated it and I also didn't want to lose league history.

03-13-2007, 09:51 AM	#12 (permalink)
Markus Heinsohn Developer OOTP Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Heinbockel, Germany Posts: 9,447

03-13-2007, 10:23 AM	#13 (permalink)
Assos All Star Reserve Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 580	Someone has been a drinking......

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Autism Speaks Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: Supporting Autism research causes Posts: 2,870	Glad to hear, Cooley. __________________

03-13-2007, 11:31 AM	#15 (permalink)
BigCity All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: South Shore, Great Lakes Posts: 1,175	Sounds like you had a similar revelation Mark. Glad your feeling the same way. This version is a return to the original series - yet better. OOTP '07 almost feels like I've hitched up with an old girlfriend (almost!) Al

03-13-2007, 11:35 AM	#17 (permalink)
Deft All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 775	When Cooleyvol gets on board it carries weight. Good to hear you like it! __________________ ATHL Louisville Jockeys (2001-present) 2002, 2007, 2010, 2012, 2014, 2015 World Champions Consolidated Jersey Styles Jersey and Cap GIMP/Photoshop Templates

03-13-2007, 11:43 AM	#19 (permalink)
statfreak All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Milwaukee, WI Posts: 1,800	I'm glad to see a more positive reaction from Cooley regarding OOTP. I didn't share his sentiments regarding 2006, but hope we have the same opinion of 2007!! Oh, and for a lot of us, your opinion still counts!! I am glad you enjoyed the game. First Henry/BCB, now Cooleyvol... OOTP2007 must be a hell of a game to get those two guys back in the fold...

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