TRTR : Day 19

[zekester91]

Originally Posted by Elendil

There's an option to turn off emails for news of various sources (world, league, organization, team, or all news).

While those options are nice, when GM'ing the big league, IMHO, you need at least organization, you need the news/emails from when coaches/players retire, and my guess it probly be good to get emails about minor league players who's mood is low/bad. For 2006 having the organization isn't too bad, usally less that 4 anoying messages a month, and they normaly all come in the first week of the month, but it would be nice if you could have an option of only top players.

[Curtis]

Originally Posted by BruceM

Injuries belong in the injuries report. I don't want a bunch of email telling me a guy is injured. I can get that info in the injuries report.

I want e-mails telling me when a guy is injured. Sometimes I forget to check the injury report amid all the other stuff there is to do.

[BruceM]

Originally Posted by Elendil

There's an option to turn off emails for news of various sources (world, league, organization, team, or all news).

Turning off your organization news is hardly an option. You're still going to want the other news that you're used to getting. Which happens to be quite a bit now, adding news/emails of information that's already available in other reports is just duplicating information.

[BruceM]

Originally Posted by Curtis

I want e-mails telling me when a guy is injured. Sometimes I forget to check the injury report amid all the other stuff there is to do.

Right - let's just do away with the injury report altogether since it gets "forgotten". I mean we don't need it any more if we're going to get emails about injuries, right?

Duplication is unnecessary and adds to the complexity of the game.

[Mike D]

Originally Posted by BruceM

Right - let's just do away with the injury report altogether since it gets "forgotten". I mean we don't need it any more if we're going to get emails about injuries, right?

Duplication is unnecessary and adds to the complexity of the game.

I think your dead wrong. If you're the type of person who sims a month at a time, yet still wants to maintain control over your roster, getting an email/news message about someone being hurt is critical. I don't think it makes the game more complex at all. I think it helps, a lot.

[Elendil]

Originally Posted by BruceM

Turning off your organization news is hardly an option. You're still going to want the other news that you're used to getting. Which happens to be quite a bit now, adding news/emails of information that's already available in other reports is just duplicating information.

Everyone has his own preferences. *shrug* I don't really care to get news at all. There are separate options for exiting autoplay for injuries and so on. If I'm negotiating with a player, I get personal messages. So I just turn off all news emails; I really don't see why they're necessary at all.

[BruceM]

Originally Posted by Mike D

I think your dead wrong. If you're the type of person who sims a month at a time, yet still wants to maintain control over your roster, getting an email/news message about someone being hurt is critical. I don't think it makes the game more complex at all. I think it helps, a lot.

You don't need an email to tell you that, the option is already there to set the game to stop simming if a player is injured.


My whole point is, and Curtis said it himself

I forget to check the injury report amid all the other stuff there is to do.

The key words being amid all the other stuff there is to do

If we keep adding to the game, then we keep adding to the things to do, which in turn leads to the likliness of forgetting to do something else because we are overwhelmed with the amount of things we have to do.

I'm not saying "don't add more to the game", I'm saying don't duplicate what is already there.

[NomarHits400]

Originally Posted by BruceM

You don't need an email to tell you that, the option is already there to set the game to stop simming if a player is injured.


My whole point is, and Curtis said it himself

The key words being amid all the other stuff there is to do

If we keep adding to the game, then we keep adding to the things to do, which in turn leads to the likliness of forgetting to do something else because we are overwhelmed with the amount of things we have to do.

I'm not saying "don't add more to the game", I'm saying don't duplicate what is already there.

I think the more subtle point here is that not everyone uses the reports and emails the same way as yourself- and it's probably a bit presumptuous of you to forcast what's best for everyone....And as it happens, more than a little ironic in that OOTP has literally DOZENS of features alot of it's users will never touch. Doesn't mean they shouldn't be included.

[BruceM]

Originally Posted by NomarHits400

I think the more subtle point here is that not everyone uses the reports and emails the same way as yourself- and it's probably a bit presumptuous of you to forcast what's best for everyone....And as it happens, more than a little ironic in that OOTP has literally DOZENS of features alot of it's users will never touch. Doesn't mean they shouldn't be included.

I'm not being presumptuous, I'm making a point. If you want to put it that way, then every suggestion is presumptuous.

And of course you've never made a suggestion for the game, right?

[Muzamba]

Personally, I don't like how news and emails were combined as of OOTP 2006 (and unfortunately it looks as if its still the same in '07)

If it were me, I'd keep the news and email separate. Emails would still be received the same way, but actual news would be displayed on a "sports page" screen, like it was in 6.5 and earlier. Opening up news in a simulated email viewer is aesthetically unappealing and it makes it difficult to immediately distinguish what's important and what isn't. (Maybe OOTP needs to implement its own version of a spam filter )

Also, I believe we should have the option to choose not only the organization from which the news comes, but the type of news we receive, as well. There should be a setup screen with each item listed in today's blog with a checkbox next to it, giving you the option whether or not to be shown that type of news. Same goes with email. You should be able to select which information you want delivered to you.

Simple! Problem solved.

[robster1225]

Bruce, I see your point. I think it would be ideal and would please everyone if there was a way to select which "types" of news you want. Like injuries, development, trade rumors, etc.. then every player could choose what he wants in his inbox, and can filter out what he doesn't.

[BruceM]

Originally Posted by robster1225

Bruce, I see your point. I think it would be ideal and would please everyone if there was a way to select which "types" of news you want. Like injuries, development, trade rumors, etc.. then every player could choose what he wants in his inbox, and can filter out what he doesn't.

Works for me.

All I'm trying to do is avoid duplication, or avoid receiving the same news in 2 or 3 or 4 different ways.

[robster1225]

Ok...(going to log feature request for developers to look at)

[skywalkr2]

Can't you just set your preferences to only mails from my team and then players on your shortlist? That way you will get your important mails as well as mails dealing with people in your organization (or others) that you really care about.

[Elendil]

Originally Posted by Muzamba

Personally, I don't like how news and emails were combined as of OOTP 2006 (and unfortunately it looks as if its still the same in '07)

If it were me, I'd keep the news and email separate. Emails would still be received the same way, but actual news would be displayed on a "sports page" screen, like it was in 6.5 and earlier. Opening up news in a simulated email viewer is aesthetically unappealing and it makes it difficult to immediately distinguish what's important and what isn't. (Maybe OOTP needs to implement its own version of a spam filter )

I guess I still don't understand what the problem is. League news is available on the league home page (and the news archive as a link). Team news is available on the team home page. That's pretty much exactly the way it was in 6.5, except that in 6.5 you had to open up a new HTML window to get team news.

No need ever to get news in your email inbox if you surf by the league & team home pages every so often.

[RBLwebguy]

Personally I like the way the game handles the news, including the filters. The latest news additions add more spice to the product and realism to the game. You will never please everyone. Some want more stories, some want less. You can filter both at the manager/team leavel and league level (unread messages only, General messages, Transactions, Contracts and SION News).

[Muzamba]

Originally Posted by Elendil

I guess I still don't understand what the problem is. League news is available on the league home page (and the news archive as a link). Team news is available on the team home page. That's pretty much exactly the way it was in 6.5, except that in 6.5 you had to open up a new HTML window to get team news.

No need ever to get news in your email inbox if you surf by the league & team home pages every so often.

In OOTP '06, if you went to the "League News" tab for a particular league, all the news items were displayed as emails, which looked rather silly to me. So this part of my statement was mainly about aesthetics.

But I think I'm in agreement with you on this: There's really no sense in jumbling the league news in with your own personal (as a manager) emails. If one prefers to get their news this way, I see no harm in it. However, we should have the option to not have our mailbox cluttered with info we can get by simply clicking on the League News or Team News screens.

[Muzamba]

Originally Posted by RBLwebguy

Personally I like the way the game handles the news, including the filters. The latest news additions add more spice to the product and realism to the game. You will never please everyone. Some want more stories, some want less. You can filter both at the manager/team leavel and league level (unread messages only, General messages, Transactions, Contracts and SION News).

I suppose part of my problem is that I haven't seen OOTP '07 yet. I was under the impression that you could only filter by league/level. If we can, indeed, control the type of news we receive, that at least addresses part of my concern. Still, I'm skeptical as to whether there will be enough filters to weed out the "fluff", like the incessant "Player of the Week" messages that were mentioned earlier in this thread.

I should also clarify that I'm not advocating these types of news items be eliminated altogether. I just wish we could see the actual news be displayed in a different format than our email messages. A news article describing how a star player sustained a career-ending injury is a completely different animal than an email message to a manager from the team doctor saying your star player's career is over.

[NomarHits400]

Originally Posted by BruceM

I'm not being presumptuous, I'm making a point. If you want to put it that way, then every suggestion is presumptuous.

And of course you've never made a suggestion for the game, right?

I really meant no offense- only pointing out that I can conceive how others (despite your protests)- might find this useful depending on their style of play.

[BruceM]

Originally Posted by NomarHits400

I really meant no offense- only pointing out that I can conceive how others (despite your protests)- might find this useful depending on their style of play.

Give it a rest will you please?

I wasn't protesting, I wasn't being presumptuous, I was making a point. Just like everyone else in this thread. That's what the forum is here for, people to make points, voice concerns, make suggestions, etc etc etc. If you can't read something without assuming it's being presumptuous or a protest, then don't bother to read it at all, because you're reading way too much into it.

Take it for what it is, one persons point of view.